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  • Not just the ADKs and the Catskills, but the Thunderbold trail is showing use...

    https://www.iberkshires.com/story/61...-Eroding-.html

    Life is a short, warm moment
    And death is a long cold rest.
    You get your chance to try in the twinkling of an eye:
    Eighty years, with luck, or even less.
    -Pink Floyd

  • #2
    Thanks for posting this Jay. It is nice to know we are not alone. It stands to reason that if you double the number of boots on a trail there will be more wear and tear. What I do not understand is when some authorities are surprised by this. Solutions need to be found and my guess is the solution lies in education, proper trail design and maintenance.

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    • tcd
      tcd commented
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      This is exactly right. The solution is either to: 1. not allow people to enjoy the resource they pay for through their taxes (unfair and unpalatable, and probably unenforceable); or 2. to properly maintain that resource to withstand the traffic. Sadly, "officials" are not doing their jobs.

      And no one is "surprised." That's just a lie they tell to try to cover for their failure. Authorities have known about this issue for years; they've just gotten away with not doing their jobs, so now they have to pretend to be surprised.
      Last edited by tcd; 11-05-2019, 06:46 PM.

  • #3
    Since this is a ski trail its fair game to close it to hiking and running(has an FKT). Has that ever been considered?

    Doing that would go a long way in helping any maintenance hold up.

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    • #4
      The article mentions about rerouting the trail... there already is the bellows pipe trail which runs a bit north off the T-bolt trail and is more geared torwards hiking as opposed to a ski race trail. It does a long switchback. Adding switchbacks to what amounts to a ski trail is silly and the last time I was on it, (it's been awhile) there was already a pretty big rut forming from rains down the center of the trail...

      Jay

      Life is a short, warm moment
      And death is a long cold rest.
      You get your chance to try in the twinkling of an eye:
      Eighty years, with luck, or even less.
      -Pink Floyd

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      • #5
        yeah, rerouting the trail seems silly with the bellows pipe right there.

        a loop with the thunderbolt is the #1 route for greylock on alltrails, something which i would bet influences the total traffic the trail receives compared to the alternatives. acknowledging that on the alltrails page would probably be an easy way to help redirect traffic elsewhere.

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        • #6
          fwiw:

          - the currently distributed greylock map denotes the upper half of the thunderbolt as being a winter-only trail.
          - as far back as 2014 the trail mileage document (which is paired with maps at trailheads) states "* Note: upper section of Thunderbolt Trail is now closed to hiking to control erosion. Please use Bellows Pipe Trail to connect with Appalachian Trail."

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