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  • nickUSA
    Consultant
    • Jun 2013
    • 323

    East Jewett Peak

    So I was studying the Greene County tax maps the other day (I know, fun, right?!) and I noticed that there appears to be DEP access from Beecher Road (which branches off from Schribner Hollow Road) all the way to the summit?! If so, this is huge, as I had previously thought that East Jewett was surrounded by private land and notoriously difficult to get permission to visit. Can anyone confirm?
    From every mountainside, let freedom ring.
  • YanaLG
    NE111 #995; CMC420 grid!
    • Jul 2011
    • 533

    #2
    no, the DEP parcel does not extend to the summit. it is all private. Have you considered Public Access 100 highest?
    46/46 as of August 1st, 2014!

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    • nickUSA
      nickUSA commented
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      Thanks for clarifying. Bummer but oh well. I think the Catskill Public 100 is a really cool idea; I'll likely pursue it in parallel with the "traditional" list.

    • YanaLG
      YanaLG commented
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      sure thing! There are ways to get access if you know the right people, and guessing that's your PM note below
  • Blowdown Gang
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 128

    #3
    NickUSA, I sent you a PM.

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    • TBPDPTI
      Self-committed ADK addict
      • Oct 2007
      • 1059

      #4
      Originally posted by YanaLG View Post
      no, the DEP parcel does not extend to the summit. it is all private. Have you considered Public Access 100 highest?
      YanaLG - according to the tax maps, yes, it does. DEP owns multiple parcels in that area and they are not all listed on their interactive map page. The main parcel, which touches Beecher Rd, is 148.00-2-20. The summit is mostly within parcel 148.00-2-11. The SE portion of the large, flat summit also barely enters 148.00-2-10 and 148.00-3-1 which are both privately owned. The former two though are indeed owned by NYC DEP and are contiguous, so one can indeed walk legally on their land from Beecher Rd all the way to the summit
      Attached Files
      High peaks: 46/46
      The other 56: 56/56
      ADK 3Kers: 47/115
      ADK 220ers: 1/3
      Honorary ADK <3000ers: 83/239
      My personal list of 460: 233/460

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      • YanaLG
        NE111 #995; CMC420 grid!
        • Jul 2011
        • 533

        #5
        Originally posted by TBPDPTI View Post

        YanaLG - according to the tax maps, yes, it does. DEP owns multiple parcels in that area and they are not all listed on their interactive map page. The main parcel, which touches Beecher Rd, is 148.00-2-20. The summit is mostly within parcel 148.00-2-11. The SE portion of the large, flat summit also barely enters 148.00-2-10 and 148.00-3-1 which are both privately owned. The former two though are indeed owned by NYC DEP and are contiguous, so one can indeed walk legally on their land from Beecher Rd all the way to the summit
        I go by NYNJ TC maps and the DEP maps. None of them show public access. Here is a screenshot of the TC maps and the interactive DEP map is available on their website.
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        46/46 as of August 1st, 2014!

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        • TBPDPTI
          Self-committed ADK addict
          • Oct 2007
          • 1059

          #6
          I've seen the NYC DEP signs on Beecher Rd with my own eyes and they correspond to the official tax map boundary information as published by Greene County: https://gis.gcgovny.com/greenewebmap/
          High peaks: 46/46
          The other 56: 56/56
          ADK 3Kers: 47/115
          ADK 220ers: 1/3
          Honorary ADK <3000ers: 83/239
          My personal list of 460: 233/460

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          • Blowdown Gang
            Blowdown Gang commented
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            Very interesting. This must be a fairly new DEP acquisition.
        • Peakbagr
          • Apr 2005
          • 583

          #7
          Blowdown Gang, check your FB messages.
          "The mountains are like a museum where the exhibits change every month" ...Ralph Ryndak, Catskill Explorer

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          • mudhook
            <b>***** *********</b>
            • Nov 2005
            • 3401

            #8
            Interesting, but remember that some DEP parcels do not have access, I await confirmation..

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            • nickUSA
              nickUSA commented
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              yes, that's a great point.

            • Blowdown Gang
              Blowdown Gang commented
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              I'm aware of 2 DEP parcels that do not allow public access, wondering if this might be another one. Btw, does anyone know how to tell if land shown as DEP on a map is public access or not? The ones I've accessed have allowed the public access (sometimes by permit only, which I do have) as confirmed by the signage bordering the property.
          • TBPDPTI
            Self-committed ADK addict
            • Oct 2007
            • 1059

            #9
            This pair definitely does allow access. (I wish I'd a picture to share thereof, but I didn't take one the last time I was hiking on that parcel.) There are indeed numerous DEP signs indicating the boundaries (as is their standard) with the standard hunting/hiking verbiage. There is also at least 1 sign that effectively indicates to be careful hunting due to the residential area/house presence. In fact, they also own some land on the N side of the street, further off to the west near the snowplow turnaround. I've seen hunters park there.

            Blowdown Gang:

            As to your question, yes! Go to their website (https://www.nyc.gov/site/dep/recreation/recreation.page) and bring up the interactive map. Clicking on a parcel provides recreational use allowance information.
            High peaks: 46/46
            The other 56: 56/56
            ADK 3Kers: 47/115
            ADK 220ers: 1/3
            Honorary ADK <3000ers: 83/239
            My personal list of 460: 233/460

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            • mudhook
              <b>***** *********</b>
              • Nov 2005
              • 3401

              #10
              Knowing the Beecher , of Beecher rd., I am always suspect. But this is great news. I will be checking this out after hunting season. Thanks TBPDTI for bringing this to our attention. When this is field verified, the CPH will be updated.

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              • maphiker
                • Oct 2010
                • 130

                #11
                This is indeed good news. Has anyone here had experience with the hiking approach necessary to stay within public lands? It looks like there is a short but extremely steep section located approximately half way to the summit. Looking at the maps, I notice the lower western peak is DEC land, but like an island surrounded by private land. Odd. This lower peak can now be accessed via the DEP parcel, although care would be necessary to avoid private land.

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                • sherbi
                  Consultant
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 198

                  #12
                  Saw the new DEP signage at the end of the road spring of 2022, sent some emails to DEP to have them update their map, never heard back.

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                  • TBPDPTI
                    Self-committed ADK addict
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 1059

                    #13
                    Originally posted by maphiker View Post
                    This is indeed good news. Has anyone here had experience with the hiking approach necessary to stay within public lands? It looks like there is a short but extremely steep section located approximately half way to the summit. Looking at the maps, I notice the lower western peak is DEC land, but like an island surrounded by private land. Odd. This lower peak can now be accessed via the DEP parcel, although care would be necessary to avoid private land.
                    Yes! Back when I ascended E Jewett Peak, this was my approach. Went in, parked on the edge of the road where there was a good space, then hopped up and into the fray. I effectively went straight up. Several there are a number of old, crisscrossing logging roads. The whole hike is quite steep, and in true Catskill form has loose rocks all over the place. I recall noting that the descent was similar to the southern descent from Winnisook Lake Mtn (if you've climbed that one).
                    High peaks: 46/46
                    The other 56: 56/56
                    ADK 3Kers: 47/115
                    ADK 220ers: 1/3
                    Honorary ADK <3000ers: 83/239
                    My personal list of 460: 233/460

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                    • nickUSA
                      Consultant
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 323

                      #14
                      Originally posted by mudhook View Post
                      Knowing the Beecher , of Beecher rd., I am always suspect. But this is great news. I will be checking this out after hunting season. Thanks TBPDTI for bringing this to our attention. When this is field verified, the CPH will be updated.
                      Giving this thread a bump. Any "official" field verification out there? The CPH page still doesn't show East Jewett Peak. I know these things can take time...
                      From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

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                      • mudhook
                        mudhook commented
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                        Yes Nick, we hiked it this spring, before leaf out. All legal, good parking at the end of Beecher Rd. We took a series of roads to the top and just cut straight down. Very enjoyable hike.Not sure what the nettles would be like, but it seems perfect for them. I will ask about updating the public peak page.
                    • Blowdown Gang
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2016
                      • 128

                      #15
                      Originally posted by nickUSA View Post

                      Giving this thread a bump. Any "official" field verification out there? The CPH page still doesn't show East Jewett Peak. I know these things can take time...
                      A couple of friends climbed EJR via this new land acquisition recently. Looks like some nice ledges and cliff bands to explore, with a bunch of old logging roads in between.

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                      • nickUSA
                        nickUSA commented
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                        Awesome! Glad to hear it!
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