Great DeRanged Traverse: Marcy to Haystack via Panther Gorge Bushwhack & Great Range

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  • AlpineLamb
    Baaaa
    • Jun 2009
    • 1164

    #16
    I LOVE this!!!! Thanks for all the great pictures!
    I have always gazed from above and wondered what it is like down in there . Thanks for showing me; you guys are awesome!

    Now I have to look at the pictures again........
    Think outside...no box required !

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    • Fiddlehead
      It's good to have skills
      • Mar 2011
      • 324

      #17
      Very impressive hike. Hopefully I'll find myself doing something that adventurous someday.

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      • krummholz
        Consultant
        • Feb 2011
        • 203

        #18
        Originally posted by Gregory Karl
        Great read and pics Kevin! I was impressed beginning with the nutrition list. Wow! That is one monumental day of eating! The hiking agenda wasn't bad either.
        Behold the awesome power of BANANA BREAD!!!

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        • mudrat
          Hiding in Panther Gorge.
          • Mar 2007
          • 1638

          #19
          Originally posted by Gregory Karl
          Great read and pics Kevin! I was impressed beginning with the nutrition list. Wow! That is one monumental day of eating! The hiking agenda wasn't bad either.
          Ha! I made it a point of eating as much as possible in an effort to avoid a sudden 'bonk'. I didn't eat enough though...thinking that was part of my cramping issue. Sheesh, if the agenda 'wasn't bad' then 'not bad' may be my plateau
          May your ambition for the goal allow you to be a student of the journey.

          www.adirondackmountaineering.com

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          • mudrat
            Hiding in Panther Gorge.
            • Mar 2007
            • 1638

            #20
            Originally posted by Neil
            Very, very sick hike. If that's what it takes to remain healthy then so be it.

            The Marcy side of Haystack is something I remember eyeballing for a few hours...

            Nice navigation job descending to the top of the Marcy slide.
            Sick is a popular word lately! Thanks. I remembered you and MG talking about the drainage and decided that might be a more interesting option. I really enjoyed it in there...very dramatic.
            May your ambition for the goal allow you to be a student of the journey.

            www.adirondackmountaineering.com

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            • PA Ridgerunner
              Lovin' Life!
              • Jun 2008
              • 3234

              #21
              Congratulations to you both on a truly inspiring accomplishment...damn! Kevin, I sure hope there is a book in your future. You're TRs and photos are fantastic!
              Nature we have always with us, an inexhaustible storehouse of that which moves the heart, appeals to the mind, and fires the imagination - health to the body, a stimulus to the intellect, and a joy to the soul. - John Burroughs

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              • Neil
                Administrator
                • Apr 2005
                • 11984

                #22
                Originally posted by mudrat
                Ha! I made it a point of eating as much as possible in an effort to avoid a sudden 'bonk'. I didn't eat enough though...
                After a certain point on long hikes (I guess this one qualifies) I often quit eating somewhere after the half-way point. Not a good idea I suppose but,

                ...I usually have a good base under my belt (har-har) with lots of protein and carbs both the day before and in the morning before and during the hike. In summer I add electrolytes to my water (not to prevent cramping but to help forestall generalized fatigue). So far I haven't had any issues with bonking, cramping or headaches etc.

                I have often read that the fitter one is the more one is able to preferentially burn fat for energy.

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                • MACATTACK
                  "Mudrats Father"
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 33

                  #23
                  quote from Neil
                  "...I usually have a good base under my belt (har-har) with lots of protein and carbs both the day before and in the morning before and during the hike. In summer I add electrolytes to my water (not to prevent cramping but to help forestall generalized fatigue). So far I haven't had any issues with bonking, cramping or headaches etc."

                  Kevin has always had a lot of body fat (yeah sure), I think when he was doing martial arts 5 times a week it was about 2% & has had low blood sugar problems forever after workouts since he was a teenager.

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                  • mudrat
                    Hiding in Panther Gorge.
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 1638

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Neil
                    After a certain point on long hikes (I guess this one qualifies) I often quit eating somewhere after the half-way point. Not a good idea I suppose but,

                    ...I usually have a good base under my belt (har-har) with lots of protein and carbs both the day before and in the morning before and during the hike. In summer I add electrolytes to my water (not to prevent cramping but to help forestall generalized fatigue). So far I haven't had any issues with bonking, cramping or headaches etc.

                    I have often read that the fitter one is the more one is able to preferentially burn fat for energy.
                    I actually prepped for this incorrectly by not prepping at all: didn't carbo load, didn't hydrate much. I did add some electrolytes to a couple liters of water though, always a good idea. The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to believe the cramping was food related...my body craved food, but I didn't have the urge to eat so I didn't eat QUITE enough. I'm waiting for MG to chime in since he's much more of a nutritional guru for endurance hikes/runs.
                    May your ambition for the goal allow you to be a student of the journey.

                    www.adirondackmountaineering.com

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                    • mudrat
                      Hiding in Panther Gorge.
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1638

                      #25
                      Originally posted by MACATTACK
                      quote from Neil
                      "...I usually have a good base under my belt (har-har) with lots of protein and carbs both the day before and in the morning before and during the hike. In summer I add electrolytes to my water (not to prevent cramping but to help forestall generalized fatigue). So far I haven't had any issues with bonking, cramping or headaches etc."

                      Kevin has always had a lot of body fat (yeah sure), I think when he was doing martial arts 5 times a week it was about 2% & has had low blood sugar problems forever after workouts since he was a teenager.
                      I had problems when I was at 4-5%, yup, but I was training 30-40 hrs/week + teaching.
                      May your ambition for the goal allow you to be a student of the journey.

                      www.adirondackmountaineering.com

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                      • mastergrasshopper
                        Commander
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 2056

                        #26
                        It's the power bars

                        For long hikes in both miles and time I think prep is more important.
                        Base line fittness / potassium / carb loading.
                        You can't eat your way out of a deficit. Hard to digest foods late in hike will use energy to digest. I like liquid protein mid hike.
                        late in hike when feel sick / don't want food I like high glycymic count foods to nibble on. A few prtetzel sticks / rice cracker mix. A few sugar items.
                        MG

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                        • mudrat
                          Hiding in Panther Gorge.
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1638

                          #27
                          Originally posted by PA Ridgerunner
                          Congratulations to you both on a truly inspiring accomplishment...damn! Kevin, I sure hope there is a book in your future. You're TRs and photos are fantastic!
                          Thank you and thank you, kind Sir!
                          Hey, you never know...
                          May your ambition for the goal allow you to be a student of the journey.

                          www.adirondackmountaineering.com

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                          • twinpeaks
                            Consultant
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 245

                            #28
                            I'm really glad I took the time to read the report...very interesting and exciting trip. Congrats on a great accomplishment!
                            "Feats don't fail me now"

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                            • Trail Boss
                              Aspiring Gridiot 427/552
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 5954

                              #29
                              Another amazing trip sponsored by:

                              Mrs. MacKenzie's Bushwhacker's Banana Bread.

                              Wholesome food for the great outdoors. Grab a log or two to fuel your next adventure.


                              Many thanks for your TR. Congratulations to you and Greg for skillfully, and safely, crossing Panther Gorge in a manner that most of us will only duplicate in our mind's eye. Making it part of the GRT is an astounding example of fitness and drive.
                              Looking for Views!

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                              • RTSpoons
                                Landscape Surveyor
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 1727

                                #30
                                One of the more interesting hikes to be posted on the forum. Great route & Nice Job. How thick was it on the backsides of Marcy and Haystack?
                                What lies behind us, and what lies before us, are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.

                                Ralph Waldo Emerson

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