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  • bikerhiker
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    Makes sense with wanting to hit certain groupings of peaks as tune-ups and gauges for upcoming events, what a great place to be doing some serious training in the peaks. C12, even without cliff and marshall, still had to be a heck of a day with the ascent/descent/repeats from TT to Colden to Sky/Gray to Red.

  • Groundpounder
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    Lol, @Makwa...thanks for the confirmation!

    This all reminds me an overnight at SnoBird when I was 99% sure I saw a Bicknell's thrush (late September 2012) puttering around in the underbrush near the tentsite, but it was pouring rain and I didn't want to ruin my camera by taking a pic. I'm just the type of person that the 1% of doubt is what sticks in my craw because I want to be certain. I do have a biology degree, so maybe that is part of the reason I'm a stickler for this kind of thing. I know what I saw, but it's that 1% that causes me to doubt. Anyway, a couple of hours after that incident I climbed, for the 3rd time, the Saddleback ledges with a full pack, but for the first time in the rain. Upon looking at them through the fog my hiking partner said, "No F_cking way." To which I replied, ok, but if not, we have to re-climb what we just came down (the east side of Basin). We made it without incident, but I almost didn't make the little boulder problem at the bottom with 40 extra pounds of momentum on my back. Live and learn! I do believe that was the very last time I've humped a full pack over the peaks.

  • Makwa
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGZiTQS-lEc

    You had a rare sighting. The DEC estimates a breeding population of 150 to 300 spruce grouse in the Adirondacks.

  • Groundpounder
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    Edit to my above comment about the spruce grouse: I did some reading about them and did not know they are now quite rare in the Adirondacks. I am not an expert birder, but am familiar with woodland and backyard birds. I am 99% certain that I saw a spruce grouse. It flushed from a tree on the left side as I was nearing the open summit ledge of Hopkins. I was less than 5 feet away when it flushed, and I know I saw predominantly black/white coloration and red on the head. My immediate thought at the time was, "Holy sh_t, I think that was a spruce grouse."

    It was not a pileated woodpecker, or any other common woodpecker, it wasn't a raptor - it was a stout, grouse-sized bird. It didn't look like a ruffed grouse (too black), and didn't make me jump out of my shoes by startling me when it flushed. I was just wondering if anyone has seen them in an area other the NW section of the Park, the only place where the DEC says they have observed established populations? Was the one (I'm pretty sure) I saw a transient, or part of a reintroduction effort? Did I hallucinate the entire thing? There is also a high probability I will never know the answers to my questions!

  • piefka
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    C12 was the only overnight I did. I stayed at the Uphill leanto after Redfield, hit Cliff/Marshall on the way out. I just reread my comment and it does seem to imply they were all day hikes, woops! I only offered my chart because OP said they were in great hiking shape. I just copy/pasted the chart because I had the work already done, I wouldn't recommend anyone following my path exactly. There is definitely a few ways I could have been more efficient, like not giving up on RPR, adding sawteeth into the GRT. I wish I had done Allen and the Santanoni range in the same day, but was nursing an injury. I bucketed to limit driving time and like Ryan, I was using them as OCR/ultra training opportunities. He is on another planet though haha. Some of them I planned a certain way because of whatever race I was training for. Like last year I had a half marathon with 5300' of gain, so I used Dial/Nippletop/Blake/Colvin 2 weeks out for some vert. Just too flat where I live. To me it wasn't really about peak bagging the most efficient way, even though that is probably how it sounds. I was just using different peaks as targets to mix it up really, get some good vert, and of course to see the outdoors.

  • bfinan0
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    But how many people would come back for peak #2 if that was their first? Introducing a mandatory order to the 46 would probably solve (or at least relocate) the parking and unprepared hiker issues if nothing else.

  • Makwa
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    I'm sure lots of folks have done it that way. @Learning_The_Trails is taking a similar approach as he hikes the 46 with his daughter. He has broken up a bunch of common pairings into multiple hikes and used different approaches than the majority of aspiring 46ers. I would guess in the long run it will be more memorable for the both of them.

    There is no wrong way to get to 46. It all boils down to personal preference. What is most efficient isn't necessarily the best though it does get you there sooner.

  • Bunchberry
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    Blake can be done from Elk lake

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  • jrjmurray
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    Too late. Even the Allen lookout was pretty crowded when I was up there this summer.

  • jrjmurray
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    On the other side of this (not criticizing - everyone should hike them in their own way)...

    20 years after first doing Algonquin + Iroquois + Wright together I returned to do just Wright as a single peak hike.
    I didn't remember much about Wright from the original trip as I was in a hurry at the time; But this time I lingered, enjoyed the view up at Algonquin, sought out and examined the plane wreckage and plaque...A wonderful experience which left a fond and vivid memory of Wright in my mind which lasts to this day (10 years later.)

    I followed up with single peak hikes to other traditionally grouped peaks such as Esther, Dial, Nippletop, Santanoni, Hough, Grace, Dix, as well as others which are often grouped with others (Phelps, Tabletop, Haystack, Marcy) and had similar experiences, and in each case was glad that I gave each individual peak it's own day.

    So far I haven't been able to be consistent with this strategy (Panther was too close to resist on the way to Couch; and likewise for a repeat visit to Giant during my RPR east-west traverse; and I really didn't want to miss the Saddleback "cliffs") but I often thought that a "single-peak 46" would be a worthwhile endeavor. A couple may actually be more difficult this way (Blake, I'm looking at you; and Emmons would need a bushwhack to avoid Donaldson, the extent of which depends on how strict you are with what constitutes NOT hiking a peak.) Others encourage longer and less-standard routes for us casual hikers (Porter from the east, Iroquois from Lake Colden, Whiteface from Connery Pond)


    Wondering if anyone's done this for all 46?

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  • bfinan0
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    Start with Allen! That way you don't have to worry about it after that, and maybe we can solve the overcrowding issues in the High Peaks too...

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  • bikerhiker
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    Are you ryan atkins?
    Was C12 really all in one day/one shot? That looks like a really amazing loop, but unfortunately very impractical for most humans. Though not as many peaks as the GRT, that covers a lot more different areas (van ho/indian falls/lake tear drop down to opal and lake colden/av pass), seeing a lot of ground in that one (im kind of surprised the ele gain isn't significantly more than the GRT as no two peaks are really on the same ridge).
    While super impressive, I really dont think this is necessarily a good thing for a beginner that is looking to get into hiking the high peaks to see, as the one hike most start out on you did right after the GRT. Its just not even close to a practical approach unless someone is already in great hiking shape.

  • piefka
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    I kept a spreadsheet for mine. I did it in 16 hikes. Could have been 15, but I ditched RPR during my winter hike. Here are all my stats and how I bucketed them (C3 is the GRT). Got some GPX in there to show the routes taken as well. The mileage and elevation gain should give you an idea of how long the day is.They are also listed in the order I did them:
    # Mileage Elevation Gain Peaks Peak Names
    C1- 8.5 2285 1 Phelps https://www.gaiagps.com/public/j84GaPChj0xqbe5JSVjoIrfW
    C2- 9.71 4164 3 Wright Algonquin Iroquois https://www.gaiagps.com/public/M67bt4eAqrDr1wu9WXj4yBJq
    C3- 25 9716 8 Marcy Haystack Basin Saddleback Gothics Armstrong Upper WolfJaw Lower Wolfjaw https://www.gaiagps.com/public/Ei5LKbgJBPnQZ2jspfUOwOkv
    C4- 6.2 2284 2 Porter Cascade https://www.gaiagps.com/public/uJqFqRp8fj3wyVnBv9pa4461
    C5- 9.6 3754 2 Esther Whiteface https://www.gaiagps.com/public/hh33aGcSRxDcIfPgA3WHC6sp
    C6- 7.4 4381 1 Giant https://www.gaiagps.com/public/WjxQt2drIg6BFYT8NXv1fluJ
    C7- 12.4 3411 1 Sawteeth https://www.gaiagps.com/public/LgimTgSASbaWApfpMfoxEARS
    C8- 14.5 5512 5 Dix Hough South Dix Grace Macomb https://www.gaiagps.com/public/y3HELiAM5NEyWiFpAKbUya1F
    C9- 17.6 6834 4 Dial Nippletop Colvin Blake https://www.gaiagps.com/public/kMmDuSvtHyT2ABXCstTtxwjN
    C10- 8.6 4685 1 Rocky Peak https://www.gaiagps.com/public/WjxQt2drIg6BFYT8NXv1fluJ
    C11- 8.7 3028 2 Street Nye https://www.gaiagps.com/public/qHGeu6MXfDK4Q2yQ9j46DaUe
    C12- 31.3 10503 7 Tabletop Colden Gray Skylight Redfield Cliff Marshall https://www.gaiagps.com/public/MydDcBTGZE4ivMkluCmkbmBD
    C13- 15.1 4814 3 Panther Couchsachraga Santanoni https://www.gaiagps.com/public/zhYxzSY01ZtTGFqkFTtApMCz
    C14- 21.5 6263 4 Seymour Seward Donaldson Emmons https://www.gaiagps.com/public/T2TO3lWKqLWiBUPN9iuBEftc
    C15- 18.58 3714 1 Allen https://www.gaiagps.com/public/0drnaqASHa8BUhFoK9SmyOVC
    C16- 8.92 3166 1 Big Slide https://www.gaiagps.com/public/8w09FeT3xDMgF3ey4cOEMeJV
    Last edited by piefka; 09-11-2019, 08:35 AM. Reason: Table Formatting

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  • Makwa
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    I love you too Bunchberry. I think we've had about a half dozen finishers over the last few months... maybe more. Down to perhaps a handful of active posters who are working on their 46. Just encouraging the aspirants to post trip reports. Personally I enjoy those more than the stories from folks who have been to a peak a bunch of times.

  • Bunchberry
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    Makwa lied. That doesn't mean I don't love him and that you are extremely welcome for being here but he lied.
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