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  • New Reroute to Mt Van Hoevenberg from XC Ski Area

    I went to the Mt Van Ho XC ski area today. The entry lane and parking lot have been relocated to the stadium area next to the lodge. I asked the attendant where the snowshoe trail to Mt Van Ho was located. There is now a rerouted snowshoe trail leading from the lodge east with new markers (see below, orange markers for Mt Van Ho). It is not the old snowshoe trail (shown on the trail map) because of the restricted area due to blasting. He said they are blasting most every day. Please note that part of this snowshoe trail is on ski trails and wearing snowshoes is required. You are also required to purchase a day pass for using the area. The marked trail intersects the still-currently-under-construction hiking trail to the summit of Mt Van Ho.

    Please also note:
    Signs at the most recent temporary trailhead (operating last summer) at the Biathlon parking lot are still there, "Hike to the Summit!". Apparently it has not been closed by DEC, but the attendant said hikers should not use this longer route because of interference with the ski trails now in operation.

    The previous 2018 temporary trailhead near the bobsled run base is also closed, although there is a parking lot for the bobsled run. The problem there is the trail is too close to the blasting area.

    Stay tuned for updates.....or climb Mt Van Ho from Meadow road for free, but fight for a parking space on the side of the Loj road.


  • #2
    Is this day pass requirement permanent, or just during construction?
    Mike

    ADK 46r #8003; 6W
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    • #3
      This is a clusterf***, as a result of trying to prove a point. Let's just stay on the ski area side of the mountain if you want to ski, and hike up the existing and perfectly fine trail from the South Meadow side if you want to hike.

      This is NY trying to prove a point about the trail to VH as an "alternative" to Cascade, and all they are doing is making a confusing mess. I hope no one gets hurt in the process.

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      • Makwa
        Makwa commented
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        Alternative to Cascade?! That's a hoot. As discussed in other threads, how in the world can that summit hold even 1/4 of the people that might be atop Cascade on a busy day? It's laughable. Nice mountain with a wonderful view but the summit isn't built for crowds.

        The one big benefit of funneling people away from Cascade and into to shorter hikes like Mt VanHo is that they will be back in town sooner spending money. From an economic standpoint who wants tourists on hikes that take several hours when they could be in town blowing cash? I wonder if this was part of the calculus on this whole idea?

    • #4
      Originally posted by MTVhike View Post
      Is this day pass requirement permanent, or just during construction?
      The ski area has had snowshoe trails for a long time, and I assume they charged for day use of facilities. When the new gold-plated lodge and visitor center is completed, they will probably charge for walking through it to reach the snowshoe trail, not that 100 years of fees will pay for what the state is building.


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      • #5
        What do they charge$?

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        • MTVhike
          MTVhike commented
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          Daily ski pass is $20; I assume the snowshoe pass is the same.

        • Hear the Footsteps
          Hear the Footsteps commented
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          It won't be the $20 as much as that you can't just wear microspikes and carry (optional) snowshoes that will keep the masses away .

      • #6
        Thanks MTV

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        • #7
          I just access those trails through the Cascade Ski Center anyway. Its $20 to use their trails, that portion of the Jackrabbit, and the VanHo trails though a single POA. Parking is never an issue unless you go on Satudays, and there's always a good burger to be had on your way back to the car.
          My mind was wandering like the wild geese in the west.

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          • #8
            Originally posted by JoeCedar View Post

            The ski area has had snowshoe trails for a long time, and I assume they charged for day use of facilities. When the new gold-plated lodge and visitor center is completed, they will probably charge for walking through it to reach the snowshoe trail, not that 100 years of fees will pay for what the state is building.


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            Speaking of "Gold Plated"

            Noticed an advertising page (pg. 61) about Lake Placid Olympic Sites in the latest Adirondack Life Magazine (Feb 2020) to arrive. There's also a long article about the 1980 Olympics in the issue.

            I got interested in what the scope of this $100 Million ORDA upgrade project is.

            I wasn't able to find a complete list at one place. (Not included here: links, info for upgrades to the Ski Jump area and to Whiteface Mt.)
            This link includes an artist rendering of the new Lodge. https://www.lakeplacidolympicsites.com/
            This link has more information. https://www.adirondackdailyenterpris...-lodge-design/
            Another link with a 3-1/2 minute audio summary: https://www.wamc.org/post/upgrades-a...e-placid-begin

            At Mt Van Hoevenberg
            - North America's Longest Mountain Coaster. Appears to replace the 1980 track. A roller coaster-like ride where the passenger controls the speed will allow guests to experience the 1980 Olympic Track in its entirety for the first time in over 20 years. Guests will speed through the world famous Shady Curve, Zig and Zag in their custom designed bobsled cart before gliding across the finish line with a winning time.
            (Opens Fall 2020)
            - New State of the Art 30,000 sq.ft. Lodge and Headquarters. (Opens Winter 2020-21)
            - New Biathlon Stadium & 4km of new trails with snowmaking. (Opens Fall 2021). The 4km to be paved to allow for summer training.
            Last edited by Hear the Footsteps; 12-11-2019, 02:48 PM.

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            • #9
              The Coaster will be cool but no one ever again will experience the thrill [and danger] of the old track. Having 'braked' from the mile and also being an EMT there I can tell you it was a huge adrenaline rush. I also experienced crashing there.

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              • #10
                Originally posted by JoeCedar View Post
                Stay tuned for updates.....or climb Mt Van Ho from Meadow road for free, but fight for a parking space on the side of the Loj road.
                Anybody aware of any new info on the situation over at Mt Van Ho? Still a mess from the Olympic Center side?

                And where does one park in winter on ADK Loj Road to get to Mt Van Ho from the "old" trail from the south/west? On the east side north of Meadows Lane? And is it generally a problem finding spots there? Might do it tomorrow afternoon to beat the weekend rains that are forecast.

                Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

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                • #11
                  With care, one is able to park safely on the east side of the Loj Rd. north of the Meadows Lane trailhead. There were a half-dozen cars parked that way last Sunday.

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                  • #12
                    So after this weekend's snow, snowshoes good for both Mt Van Ho from South Meadows (old trail)? Thinking of hitting that and Bear Den to break in the winter equipment....finally enough snow on both?

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