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  • Slide recovery graduate research

    Hey all,
    Long time lurker first time poster. I’m a semi experienced slide climber and highly experienced hiker and was wondering if I could pick some of your brains for a potential graduate school research project I’m working on. I am pursuing a masters degree with my study focusing on ecosystem recovery on Adirondack slides. I did a loose term project comparing the angel slide and macomb slide in my last fall semester undergrad, but I am really interested in doing a broader study similar to what I did with many more slides. What I need from any of you is recommendations on slides to climb (class 2/3 for the majority of slides, but some class 4 sections are totally fine). I’m ultimately looking to do 12 total slides, with 4 groups of 3 slides separated by age class. I’ve included what I’ve thought about so far below. If you have any additional slide suggestions or any advice on slides I have below please let me know!
    Thanks guys!
    Confirmed Slide list::
    Angel slide (right/most recent slide, 2011 Hurricane Irene)
    Macomb slide: 1950 Hurricane
    Bennies brook slide: 1995 October cloudburst and 2011 Irene
    Lake placid slide on Whiteface: Rain event in 1808
    Cascade Mountain slide: 1830 seven days of heavy rain and 2011 Irene

    Potential Slides:
    Great Slide on Grace peak
    Ermine Brook Slide: 1985 Hurricane Gloria
    Left wing slide: 1938 “great hurricane”
    Ski slides on Whiteface: 1971 Thunderstorm
    Colden southeastslide: 1990 10 inches of rain overnight
    Cooper kill slide: 2011 Irene
    Redfield slide
    Kilburn (monument slide): 1995 Cloudburst
    Khybers slide: 1999 Floyd
    nippletop slide
    Saddleback south slide

  • #2
    Khyber’s is an Irene Slide.

    Three slides that are relatively new. In the Beaver Brook drainage, From near col Pyramid-Gothics; below the Hunter's Pass trail on Dix.
    Last edited by Hear the Footsteps; 10-09-2022, 06:26 AM.

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    • #3
      as i said on your facebook post, the three major cleanings of slides that i can think of (aside from Dix's), where you will find a bunch of fresh rock, are the ones i think Don pointed out on this forum: "santanoni's autobahn slide (directly due east of summit) recleaned in 2019, but possibly pyramid east in 2019, and armstrong south (strong arm?) in august 2020 hurricane. Very interesting project, can compare effects not just of year but of rock type as well as mountain aspect for rate of regrowth."

      Do a look back through the slide subforum on here though, and I'm sure you will be able to get a lot of good beta from this group.
      "...don't assume you can't do it...we all make mistakes and sometimes fail. Keep working and learning, and be committed to improving fitness, and there is no limit to what you can do." Joe Bogardus
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      • #4
        Originally posted by bikerhiker View Post
        as i said on your facebook post, the three major cleanings of slides that i can think of (aside from Dix's), where you will find a bunch of fresh rock, are the ones i think Don pointed out on this forum: "santanoni's autobahn slide (directly due east of summit) recleaned in 2019, but possibly pyramid east in 2019, and armstrong south (strong arm?) in august 2020 hurricane. Very interesting project, can compare effects not just of year but of rock type as well as mountain aspect for rate of regrowth."

        Do a look back through the slide subforum on here though, and I'm sure you will be able to get a lot of good beta from this group.
        Thanks for the response in both spots! And the forum is definitely a gold mine for beta, it's helped me narrow down my list and really get the excitement going for this project. If I get the funding I'll be sure to post updates/climb reports in here. Information like this is infinitely valuable.

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        • #5
          I think the new slide above the trap dyke was Irene as well?
          Tom Rankin - 5444W, etc., etc.

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          • #6
            Sounds like a very interesting study. When you talk of recovery are you looking to gauge vegetation growth such as lichen, mosses and pioneering plants? I assume growth rates will be measured by recent activities, newer or cleaned slides vs older ones. I suppose face direction, grade, snow pack difference will all come into play.
            "Climbing is about freedom. There's no prize money; there are no gold medals. The mountains are all about going there to do what you want to do. That's why I'll never tell anyone else how to climb. All I can say is, This is how I prefer to do it."
            Ed Viesturs

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            • #7
              If it hasn't been mentioned, consider the 1999 Floyd slide in Avalanche Pass. Easy to get to the base, as it comes right down to the trail.

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              • #8
                I'm not great with slide names so I apologize if this one has been mentioned; the slide that the Beaver Meadow Falls trail crosses on the ridgeline that joins Armstrong and Gothics. Very easy to get to since the trail physically crosses the debris field above the drainage.
                My mind was wandering like the wild geese in the west.

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