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Old 04-13-2012, 08:10 AM   #1
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Good Old Gooding Road...Drive On !!!!

I'm not a lawyer ... but I'd have to say you can probably park there now...

http://decisions.courts.state.ny.us/...012/512504.pdf

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Old 04-13-2012, 10:51 AM   #2
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I know the local phone guy uses that road ...
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Old 04-13-2012, 12:30 PM   #3
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I had a discussion with Mr. Depaolo once regarding access to Halcott from Gooding road once where he said the road was his private property. Guess not.

There is a tiny swatch of state land down to road side there.



I am hiking with Arlo and Jaco on Sunday, ...Halcott or Balsam.

Would really love to get Halcott.

What are you doing?
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Old 04-13-2012, 01:07 PM   #4
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Having once cut the gate blocking this road in the very late 80's or very early 90's( while a very dumbfounded, speechless land owner watched ), I am somewhat familiar with the area.
But, take a look at the SLIM mapping thing on the DEC site. The State land bordering the Crump Rd. appears to be part of the Shandaken Wild Forest, Lower Birch Creek Area, Ulster County, Region 3. The Halcott Wild Forest,Greene County, Region 4 where Halcott Mt. is located does not border Crump Rd. There looks to be a section of the dreaded PP between the Region 3 and the Region 4 state properties.
Check it out and see what you come up with.
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The Halcott Wild Forest,Greene County, Region 4 where Halcott Mt. is located does not border Crump Rd. There looks to be a section of the dreaded PP between the Region 3 and the Region 4 state properties.

Check it out and see what you come up with.
Hmmm, interesting.

However, there is State Land Signage on the road. You can see it, right there on the road. An indication that the state land does indeed come right down to the road.
However, it is a very small swath, perhaps it looks to be only a matter of feet, 10 to 20 perhaps. I am only guessing and have no idea , really, of how wide it is.

I don't have any maps with me at the moment, but I do seem to remember the Catskill map set indicating the public land comes down to the road. AND, I will vouch for the fact that this whole thing is giving the current land owner ulcers.

The reason for this is, he has vast amounts of sap collecting equipment throughout his land on each side of the public land swath.
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Old 04-13-2012, 01:32 PM   #6
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Yes, the DEC land is part of the Birch Creek Area, from below the road, a small section crosses the road, which is still in Ulster County. The Halcott Mt Area is above this , Greene County. Doesn't appear to connect
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Yes, the DEC land is part of the Birch Creek Area, from below the road, a small section crosses the road, which is still in Ulster County. The Halcott Mt Area is above this , Greene County. Doesn't appear to connect
Ah Yes.... I see it now...I just checked out the SLIM. Very interesting. Now I understand why the landowner is getting ulcers !!!!

It is misleading. I need to check the catskill and VO maps to see how they line up with this.
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Old 04-13-2012, 09:23 PM   #8
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Here are two websites that may help:

http://gis.greenegovernment.com/giswebmap/#

http://gis.co.ulster.ny.us/

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Glad I got Halcott out of the way in winter. (from Gooding Rd.)
More importantly, in good road conditions.
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