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Old 04-03-2012, 10:05 PM   #1
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Question Whiteface Toll Road condition?

OK my usual question : does anyone know if the road is rideable yet? If so is it clear all the way to the castle w/ minimal walking?
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:00 AM   #2
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The calendar on the Whiteface website says that the toll road opens May 18, which seems kind of late after our lackluster winter.
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The calendar on the Whiteface website says that the toll road opens May 18, which seems kind of late after our lackluster winter.
Yeah, I saw the sign for reopening at the gate last time I went up there a couple weeks ago. The road was mostly clear then and is prob most clear by now. I was just hoping for a confirmation since I will be biking this time.

Thanks!! Poopsmith? yikes that is a kinda scary name - any more details
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The Poopsmith was a character from an internet comic, he had the worst job in town...shoveling poop. I got the nickname after a very unfortunate (for me) event on a hike
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OK my usual question : does anyone know if the road is rideable yet? If so is it clear all the way to the castle w/ minimal walking?
Hold the phones...Inge, do you actually ride up the whole road top to bottom?....if so...very impressive

I'm a cyclist and I never even gave that thought...Now I'm putting it on my to do list.
Lets talk bikes.....what kind of bike do you have? carbon? Do you know what your biggest rear cassette gear # is? 28?

I think I would be hurting big time with my current bike set up for that climb.
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Why not just run up it instead?

http://www.whitefacerace.com/
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Old 04-05-2012, 07:54 PM   #7
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OH Poopsmith! I am sorry to hear that, but it sounds like you have an awesome sense of humor!! Hope to see you on the trails :-)
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Hold the phones...Inge, do you actually ride up the whole road top to bottom?....if so...very impressive

I'm a cyclist and I never even gave that thought...Now I'm putting it on my to do list.
Lets talk bikes.....what kind of bike do you have? carbon? Do you know what your biggest rear cassette gear # is? 28?

I think I would be hurting big time with my current bike set up for that climb.
DeepForest!! Def put it on your list. I use an old steel mt bike (prob a 28?) but will probably get around to using a road bike - I have had carbon bikes, but now they are all steel and one titanium. Just remember though ... it is not the gear, but the engine :-) It really isn't that hard of a climb - it's paved and only an 8% grade. I've been up lots steeper - 15-20% but with pitches to give relief. A relentless single grade wears on one position/muscle group. I could talk bikes forever....but just want to encourage you to ride it! When they open, they charge $7/bike, I think...so bring some do-ray-me in your pocket. The descent makes it worth it.

DougV - I've done the footrace many times....1:13 from Wilmington comes to mind. 1st woman, top 10+/- finisher back in the day. Ran it last month until the icey sections, took about 1.5hrs. Highly recommend running up and /or down it! Love that stretch of "highway" :-) DougV, are you racing it?
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Why not just run up it instead?

http://www.whitefacerace.com/
There are two races - a foot race and a bike race.
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Hi Inge, I ran it for the past few years. I have managed to finish in the upper half of my age bracket so far (50-60 ), and in the upper half of the overall field. Best time about 1:33. I always walk up to the summit after the race, but I always have ridden back down in the car, so I can't count them as ascents toward any of my "lists" I had an idea that you had done this before. 1:13 Wow, that's motoring . First woman, top 10, I'm definately impressed but not suprised.
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Hi Inge, I ran it for the past few years. I have managed to finish in the upper half of my age bracket so far (50-60 ), and in the upper half of the overall field. Best time about 1:33. I always walk up to the summit after the race, but I always have ridden back down in the car, so I can't count them as ascents toward any of my "lists" I had an idea that you had done this before. 1:13 Wow, that's motoring . First woman, top 10, I'm definately impressed but not suprised.
Doug!! nice job! don't be impressed - those days are behind me. Glad you are still hammering it out! I used to summit and add Esther just so I could count the peaks ---LOL!! LISTS!!
Maybe I'll see you this year. I'm getting a bit more serious about fitness again.
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Just an FYI that you all probably know, but they've moved the uphill run from June (a couple of weeks before the bike race) to September now. And if you want some training races before Whiteface, there's one on Mansfield (Race to the Top of Vermont, sponsored by the Catamount Trail Assn) August 26th and Greylock (sponsored by Western Mass Athletic Club) on Labor Day. These might even nudge me out of retirement...
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Just an FYI that you all probably know, but they've moved the uphill run from June (a couple of weeks before the bike race) to September now. And if you want some training races before Whiteface, there's one on Mansfield (Race to the Top of Vermont, sponsored by the Catamount Trail Assn) August 26th and Greylock (sponsored by Western Mass Athletic Club) on Labor Day. These might even nudge me out of retirement...
Hey hey Teleskier!! Can't we resurrect the Mt Washington team - now that was a blast. Especially the campout nightbefore w/ my crazy funnygirl!
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Hey hey Teleskier!! Can't we resurrect the Mt Washington team - now that was a blast. Especially the campout nightbefore w/ my crazy funnygirl!
Too late for this year, lottery closed March 15th, but maybe next year? Personally, I like the fall uphill race idea better - gives me more time to train, esp. cross-train with some uphill cycling. Which, come to think of it, is where this thread started, right?
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Can I forward this thread to my wife so she won't keep saying I'm crazy?
You can, but keep in mind that by Inge's standards, running races up a paved mountain road is about as plain-vanilla as it gets!
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Pffft.... Not much of a run.... There's only ONE hill.
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Old 04-07-2012, 03:55 PM   #18
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There is no snow for the first half - tracks of a cyclist proved that was the turn around pt. on the Toll Road. Tire tracks in the snow continued 'til the castle; thereby barebootable. I used mspikes for the slick descent down the red trail, including Esther's path; although many others were fine barebooting. It just seemed that the mspikes enable a bit great confidence and speed. Lots of smiling faces in the mts today!!

Def a vanilla ice cream day....love that stuff too!
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Inge, thanks for the trail info as we plan on doing a Spring climb of Wf & E on the 15th so nice to know that we only need to carry microspikes.
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First of all, you can riude the road for free after they close it or early in the morning, I have done that several times. I have also done the race up it in June. For me the trick is to wear a HRM and just keep your self at an acceptable heart rate, Zone 3+ if you are into those things. Many times I have started the race, gotten past by a lot of riders only to pass them later becasue they burned themselves up early in the ride.

I am afraid I cannot do the race this year as my weight has ballooned and I can't get it low enough to not kill myself before June.
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