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  • Morgan Hill - Long loop 5/31

    http://cnyhiking.com/MorganHillLongLoop.htm

    ‎12 miles, 6 hours, elev gain 1,490 feet, avg speed 2.0mph. On the Morgan Hill Long Loop. I didn't do it the same as he did it, I started at Spruce Pond and went counter-clockwise, so most of the difficult hill climbs would be in the first 1/3 of the trail. Most of the trail was dry, only a couple spots with some mud. Only saw two other people out hiking. Plenty of wildlife of the small variety, chipmunks, a toad, what I think was a young turkey.

    I've defintely built up my stamina over this past month, if you had asked me to do this hike a month ago, I probably could have done it but not as fast.

    Oh, and I love it when getting back to the parking lot that can hold 12-15 vehicles, that the only other person parked there parked so close to me that we wouldn't be able to open both our doors at the same time or they would hit.
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    Fun loop. If you want a variation that focuses more on elevation gain and less on distance Nicole and I like to do the following:

    1) Park at tinker falls parking lot
    2) Climb to hang-glider lookout
    3) Descend to falls
    4) Climb to top of ridge
    5) Descend to Shackham Road (I think that's the name)
    6) Hike up to the leanto, continue the climb until it intersects dirt road (real dirt road, not the snowmobile path)
    7) Do 6,5,4,3, then climb over the ridge (but not to the lookout), and descend to the car

    it is ~8 miles with ~2k feet of gain
    Warning: BigNSlow may not actually be all that slow

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bignslow View Post
      Fun loop. If you want a variation that focuses more on elevation gain and less on distance Nicole and I like to do the following:

      1) Park at tinker falls parking lot
      2) Climb to hang-glider lookout
      3) Descend to falls
      4) Climb to top of ridge
      5) Descend to Shackham Road (I think that's the name)
      6) Hike up to the leanto, continue the climb until it intersects dirt road (real dirt road, not the snowmobile path)
      7) Do 6,5,4,3, then climb over the ridge (but not to the lookout), and descend to the car

      it is ~8 miles with ~2k feet of gain
      I go up past leanto till tree with double blaze at lip off little gorge. Otherwise same out and back. Tracked with GPS = 8.85 miles 2,200 ft gain. Been doing this for 12 years all seasons. 1:28 = best time
      Another elevation short burn is park at Shackham go north up S.Jones, top of Tinker, Hang- glider, spruce pond, then return.
      Going south after Tinker ( up North end of S. Jones ) they did a major trail reroute with about a 1/2 mile of endless switchbacks. I Ignore that and still go straight up same as good old ADK trails .
      GREAT FUN
      MG

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      • #4
        thats a nice day spent...theres a group of people doing the west face tonight, i may join them..Never done it that way.. Mike you have the 411 on the elevation gain from the other side, lab hollow up overlooking the pond?? its a nice climb in elevation too...??
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        • #5
          lots of wildlife

          Originally posted by Jack7957 View Post
          http://cnyhiking.com/MorganHillLongLoop.htm

          ‎12 miles, 6 hours, elev gain 1,490 feet, avg speed 2.0mph. On the Morgan Hill Long Loop. I didn't do it the same as he did it, I started at Spruce Pond and went counter-clockwise, so most of the difficult hill climbs would be in the first 1/3 of the trail. Most of the trail was dry, only a couple spots with some mud. Only saw two other people out hiking. Plenty of wildlife of the small variety, chipmunks, a toad, what I think was a young turkey.

          I've defintely built up my stamina over this past month, if you had asked me to do this hike a month ago, I probably could have done it but not as fast.

          Oh, and I love it when getting back to the parking lot that can hold 12-15 vehicles, that the only other person parked there parked so close to me that we wouldn't be able to open both our doors at the same time or they would hit.
          love the 12 mile loop. lots of variation and lots of wildlife. Done many ways but for speed I like to start at 2nd Shakham crossing ( just above Shackham pond ). I go clockwise, around pond and on up to Baily rd - Morgan hill rd
          then on on down to leanto and Shackham rd. Then S and N Jones hill and over and down to spruce pond. The rest of the way is nice soft trail mainly downhill back to Shackham rd. The 2 sections of trail from spruce pond down to shackham pond and around to bottom off Baily hill are newly cut trails as of 3 years ago this fall. Best time so far is 2:12, My wife just got into it and her first loop was 5:01 her goal is to do a 4:30 by this fall. I've been trying to break the 2 hour mark since they cut the trail
          I've been down there almost every day for past 2 weeks as I've been recovering from Surgery. The day after discharge from hospital I did 12 hour loop in 6 hours and this past sunday got down to a respectable 2:44.
          MG

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          • #6
            Great loop! I've done it a few different ways, but like MG's clockwise route from Shackham pond best...gets the road walk out of the way early, before the sun is too hot. I actually like the switchbacks, because that's such a scenic part of the trail and you can focus on that, rather than not slipping and falling or tripping over roots...and that ''good ole days" trail was seriously eroded!

            Wanna try BNS/Poopsmith's variation...sounds like fun!
            Nature we have always with us, an inexhaustible storehouse of that which moves the heart, appeals to the mind, and fires the imagination - health to the body, a stimulus to the intellect, and a joy to the soul. - John Burroughs

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            • #7
              I've never been, but would like to try it. Are the trails well marked?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by HikrGrl View Post
                I've never been, but would like to try it. Are the trails well marked?
                In short the answer is no, but the descriptions and maps on the cnyhiking website in the first post are extremely helpful.
                There are often a couple of forum members out there and I will be doing the long loop this Saturday from Shackum pond at 8 a.m. possibly with a few others.
                I have no intentions of ever breaking the 2 hour mark
                Depending on who I am with it usually takes me anywhere from 4 to 5 and a half hours.
                "Climbing is about freedom. There's no prize money; there are no gold medals. The mountains are all about going there to do what you want to do. That's why I'll never tell anyone else how to climb. All I can say is, This is how I prefer to do it."
                Ed Viesturs

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ADKJack View Post
                  In short the answer is no, but the descriptions and maps on the cnyhiking website in the first post are extremely helpful.
                  There are often a couple of forum members out there and I will be doing the long loop this Saturday from Shackum pond at 8 a.m. possibly with a few others.
                  I have no intentions of ever breaking the 2 hour mark
                  Depending on who I am with it usually takes me anywhere from 4 to 5 and a half hours.
                  I've seen a lot of people post about their time on this trail. Is it big for trail runners? Or are people just speed hikers?! Some times are very impressive!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HikrGrl View Post
                    I've seen a lot of people post about their time on this trail. Is it big for trail runners? Or are people just speed hikers?! Some times are very impressive!
                    Combination of both. Most of us have found that is a good place to keep in half decent hiking shape .
                    If you are interested in running it I know that Bignslow, poopsmith, Kyler, Kensquest could pipei n. And if you are looking at superhuman, insect like speed. Mastergrasshoper is the man or bug
                    "Climbing is about freedom. There's no prize money; there are no gold medals. The mountains are all about going there to do what you want to do. That's why I'll never tell anyone else how to climb. All I can say is, This is how I prefer to do it."
                    Ed Viesturs

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                    • #11
                      Great training area

                      The trails in Morgan Hill are a great workout, very challenging for the distance covered. Since hiking there last fall and winter with other forum members I continued with my own favorite loops. For a quick workout I park at the upper Shackham crossing (by the pond) and go counter clockwise past Spruce Pond up to the hang glider overlook. Then down over the top of Tinker Falls and up and over the hill back to Shackham road. Then it's a one mile jog back to the vehicle. It's real close to 7 miles with the majority of the climbing. For me it's a little less than 2 hours which is all I can really get out with all of the other "stuff" I seem to have to do. Thats about the same time as others do the whole loop. I really noticed an improvement in my fitness level(especially aerobic level) when I went there frequently. Lately I've just been cycling but I look forward to getting back over there.
                      Nobody moves.... nobody gets hurt!

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                      • #12
                        I will be at Shackum pond at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow 7/13. Planning on doing the long loop clockwise (get the road walk out of the way early). Willing to consider alternative routes depending upon who is interested.
                        "Climbing is about freedom. There's no prize money; there are no gold medals. The mountains are all about going there to do what you want to do. That's why I'll never tell anyone else how to climb. All I can say is, This is how I prefer to do it."
                        Ed Viesturs

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                        • #13
                          We'll be there!
                          Last edited by PA Ridgerunner; 07-12-2013, 02:10 PM.
                          Nature we have always with us, an inexhaustible storehouse of that which moves the heart, appeals to the mind, and fires the imagination - health to the body, a stimulus to the intellect, and a joy to the soul. - John Burroughs

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                          • #14
                            I have a high school 50 th class reunion .. Wish I could join you all. Steve.. Check out thae poison ivy you referred to in a post a few years ago to see if it is still there. Thanks.. Bud

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bud3010 View Post
                              I have a high school 50 th class reunion .. Wish I could join you all. Steve.. Check out thae poison ivy you referred to in a post a few years ago to see if it is still there. Thanks.. Bud
                              Will do, Bud. I suspect it is...
                              Sorry we'll miss you tomorrow.
                              Nature we have always with us, an inexhaustible storehouse of that which moves the heart, appeals to the mind, and fires the imagination - health to the body, a stimulus to the intellect, and a joy to the soul. - John Burroughs

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