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    For the past few years I have experienced Gastro Intestinal Distress (dry heaves) after a long period of hiking.
    Five years ago after a 12 to 13 hour hike and more recently after 9 to 10 hours.
    I am now in my early 70’s and exercise and hike regularly.

    Here are my conditions during a long hike:

    Hydration: good –- continuing to hydrate before I am thirsty
    Physical condition: Not physical exhausted or overheated
    Pulse rate: slightly above normal but not at a high rate.
    Oxygen Level: tested - very good
    Food intake: Good breakfast and can eat OK prior to 5 or 6 hours but then it becomes hard to eat and swallow any solid food. I then supplement with Stingers and/or Shot Blocks.

    I know that long distance runners experience similar effects and that over hours of exercise that the blood moves away from the digestive tract to those parts of the body that are doing the physical work. I expect that age is also a factor - – bummer!

    I found that after the hike if I drink a large milk shake that it settles things down and the next day I can do a moderate hike again.

    With just 4 more high peaks to go I would like to finish the 46 without going through this GI problem again. It really takes you down big time when it happens.

    Anyone experiencing this problem? Any suggestions would be appreciated to help minimize this GI distress? Cheers, Jim
    ADK 44/46 (Remaining: Cliff, Redfield)
    CHH 102/102 #33
    Catskill 3500 #1888 / #774W
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    Catskill 3500W - Finish - December 29, 2011
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    Catskill 100 Highest - February 23, 2016

    ​Fire Tower Challenge - July 20, 2016
    _________________________________________

    "It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves."
    - Sir Edmund Hillary

  • #2
    "Hydration:good continuing to hydrate before I am thirsty"

    Maybe you're drinking too much?

    But really, dry heaving sucks, and that sounds awfully similar to symptoms of over-exertion. I would talk with my doctor about it.
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    • Yury
      Yury commented
      Editing a comment
      "Food intake: Good breakfast and can eat OK prior to 5 or 6 hours but then it becomes hard to eat and swallow any solid food."

      In addition to drinking less, have you also tried to eat less on the day of a hike?
      Anyway, eating is overrated (especially for a day hike).

  • #3
    Not over exertion or breathing heavy - saw the doc and checked out in very good physical condition - This has been a problem that I can't seem get a good answer to prevent.
    ADK 44/46 (Remaining: Cliff, Redfield)
    CHH 102/102 #33
    Catskill 3500 #1888 / #774W
    Saranac 6er #590
    ADK/Catskill Fire Tower Challenge 26/23


    ADK member: Genesee Valley Chapter
    The Explorers Club member: Fellow National 2013

    Websites:
    www.shipwreckworld.com Rare Sailing Craft Found in Lake Ontario - posted 11/25/2016
    www.jimkennard.com
    ...Peak Experiences of a Catskill Senior Hiker
    _________________________________________
    Catskill 3500 --- Finish - December 23, 2010
    Catskill 3500W - Finish - December 29, 2011
    Saranac 6 - Finish - May 29, 2014
    Catskill 100 Highest - February 23, 2016

    ​Fire Tower Challenge - July 20, 2016
    _________________________________________

    "It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves."
    - Sir Edmund Hillary

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    • #4
      Is this a phlegm problem?
      I might be kidding...

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      • #5
        No phlegm - Hi Kevin
        ADK 44/46 (Remaining: Cliff, Redfield)
        CHH 102/102 #33
        Catskill 3500 #1888 / #774W
        Saranac 6er #590
        ADK/Catskill Fire Tower Challenge 26/23


        ADK member: Genesee Valley Chapter
        The Explorers Club member: Fellow National 2013

        Websites:
        www.shipwreckworld.com Rare Sailing Craft Found in Lake Ontario - posted 11/25/2016
        www.jimkennard.com
        ...Peak Experiences of a Catskill Senior Hiker
        _________________________________________
        Catskill 3500 --- Finish - December 23, 2010
        Catskill 3500W - Finish - December 29, 2011
        Saranac 6 - Finish - May 29, 2014
        Catskill 100 Highest - February 23, 2016

        ​Fire Tower Challenge - July 20, 2016
        _________________________________________

        "It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves."
        - Sir Edmund Hillary

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        • #6
          Hi Jim, are you referring to acid reflux?
          I might be kidding...

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          • #7
            No - never suffered from heatburn - this is something different. - Check our gastrointestinal distress. - Overexertion can be a cause but I never feel over exerted, out of breath, weak, fatigued, physically exhausted or overheated. Some long distance runners have similar symptoms.
            ADK 44/46 (Remaining: Cliff, Redfield)
            CHH 102/102 #33
            Catskill 3500 #1888 / #774W
            Saranac 6er #590
            ADK/Catskill Fire Tower Challenge 26/23


            ADK member: Genesee Valley Chapter
            The Explorers Club member: Fellow National 2013

            Websites:
            www.shipwreckworld.com Rare Sailing Craft Found in Lake Ontario - posted 11/25/2016
            www.jimkennard.com
            ...Peak Experiences of a Catskill Senior Hiker
            _________________________________________
            Catskill 3500 --- Finish - December 23, 2010
            Catskill 3500W - Finish - December 29, 2011
            Saranac 6 - Finish - May 29, 2014
            Catskill 100 Highest - February 23, 2016

            ​Fire Tower Challenge - July 20, 2016
            _________________________________________

            "It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves."
            - Sir Edmund Hillary

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            • #8
              So think about eating stuff that has little to no chewing. How's that? Yury said this as well, sort of. I know its tough changing your favorite foods. The day before matters, too.
              I might be kidding...

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              • #9
                I wonder if the Stingers and Shot Blocks could have something to do with it. Maybe not, because you don't mention loose stools or diarrhea as a symptom. There is a lot of sugar and they are osmotically active as a result. I wonder if you could have H. Pylori and this is gastritis. Have you tried over the counter Zantac or Pepcid the week before a hike and day of a hike?

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                • #10
                  Just thought I'd mention, acid reflux can occur without any of the typical "heartburn" symptoms. Try taking a Nexium the day before and the day of your hike. You need to take it 30 minutes before breakfast. I have this problem which has caused me coughing and mild asthma. Maybe a good GI specialist could give you some more insight.

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                  • #11
                    Think I have an idea what you are referring to. While should be starving, can not eat more than maybe a hot dog or a small cheeseburger at Stewarts after a long day hike. Milkshakes are the best thing in the world, same after any tough workout for that matter. Just can not really eat after hiking 10 or 12 hours. Not feeling sick or heartburn, just no appetite. Overall feel good though. I do not get dry heaves but after a long run 10k plus hard to talk if breathing heavy for a long time. So maybe more respitory, just dry throat from sucking air or in the case of hiking, mouth breathing. Conditioning (running, spinning,other cardio) seems to help as occurances are now less than a couple years ago.

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                    • #12
                      Forgot To Mention: A couple of hours prior to getting the dry heaves (7 or 8 hours out) I get a runny nose much more than usual - Anyone have this same situation?
                      Maphiker: Thanks - Last year I did see a gastroenterology doctor ​and had him do an endoscope check of my throat. He indicted a very small trace of heartburn. However I have never experienced any heartburn and a second check 3 or 4 months later showed no trace of it.
                      ​Gabby: I eat the Stingers and Shot Blocks in moderation occasionally along the way - Tried the Gel stuff one time but it was a little too late as I was getting sick by then..
                      ADK 44/46 (Remaining: Cliff, Redfield)
                      CHH 102/102 #33
                      Catskill 3500 #1888 / #774W
                      Saranac 6er #590
                      ADK/Catskill Fire Tower Challenge 26/23


                      ADK member: Genesee Valley Chapter
                      The Explorers Club member: Fellow National 2013

                      Websites:
                      www.shipwreckworld.com Rare Sailing Craft Found in Lake Ontario - posted 11/25/2016
                      www.jimkennard.com
                      ...Peak Experiences of a Catskill Senior Hiker
                      _________________________________________
                      Catskill 3500 --- Finish - December 23, 2010
                      Catskill 3500W - Finish - December 29, 2011
                      Saranac 6 - Finish - May 29, 2014
                      Catskill 100 Highest - February 23, 2016

                      ​Fire Tower Challenge - July 20, 2016
                      _________________________________________

                      "It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves."
                      - Sir Edmund Hillary

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                      • #13
                        I haven't had this to the extent you say too often. But not having the desire to eat foods I like is. The worst case I was convinced had to with going too long without eating and a result sour or acid stomach. When I finally concluded that not eating was the cause and I was able to work in more food, slowly. And the dry heaves when away. I used to take liquid lunch, no not liquor, breakfast high protein milkshakes UHT preserved. These go down easy.

                        This may be a flyer for you... in England I bought some Romney's Kendal Mint cakes. Said to be used in expeditions, Hillary's in particular. Basically glucose with a mint binder. A small piece dissolved slowly gives you a quick boost sustained longer that the caloric value. A friend told me (experienced based) that mint settles upset stomach. Hard to buy this product in stores but believe it is available on Amazon. I have a whole bar left and I keep it for emergencies.


                        Don
                        Last edited by Hear the Footsteps; 06-20-2017, 08:41 PM.

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                        • #14
                          Hello Don, Two good suggestions. Romney's Kendal Mint cakes are available on Amazon and EBAY. Have you come across something similar in the US? I have not tried protein drinks on the trail but I have to believe they would help as when this GI distress problem has happen to me the stomach was empty. Have you seen any decent tasting drinks than can be made from protein powder? - For a multiple day hike I would prefer not to be carrying additional bottles.
                          ADK 44/46 (Remaining: Cliff, Redfield)
                          CHH 102/102 #33
                          Catskill 3500 #1888 / #774W
                          Saranac 6er #590
                          ADK/Catskill Fire Tower Challenge 26/23


                          ADK member: Genesee Valley Chapter
                          The Explorers Club member: Fellow National 2013

                          Websites:
                          www.shipwreckworld.com Rare Sailing Craft Found in Lake Ontario - posted 11/25/2016
                          www.jimkennard.com
                          ...Peak Experiences of a Catskill Senior Hiker
                          _________________________________________
                          Catskill 3500 --- Finish - December 23, 2010
                          Catskill 3500W - Finish - December 29, 2011
                          Saranac 6 - Finish - May 29, 2014
                          Catskill 100 Highest - February 23, 2016

                          ​Fire Tower Challenge - July 20, 2016
                          _________________________________________

                          "It is not the mountain we conquer but ourselves."
                          - Sir Edmund Hillary

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                          • #15
                            So, yes the runny nose is definitely an aspect of the type of reflux I have. Sorry to be a little gross. but it's as if a little reflux gets in my breathing passages and I get post nasal drip and a need to blow my nose. In my case, I usually start coughing but I can see how it might lead to dry heaves. I do not get a burning, heart burn type pain.

                            Maybe it's a long shot but a trial with Nexium would most likely not hurt. It's important to realize that drug needs to be taken before the problem arises. It will not help an acute attack. Hope you can resolve this somehow. There are certainly some good ideas here.

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