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MattC
12-26-2006, 03:55 PM
I got a late start Sunday after packing for my holiday visit to the Capitol Region. I intended to park at the Palenville lot on 23A and hike up to the Escarpment, but there was no room to park there (two earth-moving machines, and three other vehicles) so I headed up Kaaterskill Clove to Haines Falls. 23A is in fine shape after the extensive work, and the Clove was as beautiful as always-although it will be more so if we ever get any snow! One nice, new touch on the road-there is now more paved shoulder behind the guardrail for people to walk from the upper lot down to the Kaaterskill Falls trailhead.

Anyway, I drove past all that, up to the "Mountaintop" and on to the Schutt Rd. trailhead. I headed out on the Escarpment Trail about 11:30. This was only my second time on this ground, and the first time was at the end of Jay's charity death march back in May 2005. My first stop was the top of the Falls, easily found off-trail a short ways-in fact, there was a herd path or two around that area. I didn't get too close to the edge, and thus only had limited views of the Falls itself, but just looking out over the gulf was impressive as well. Amazing place.

Back on track, I continued down to the Layman monument, and soon was walking along the edge of the Catskills, gazing down at the road far below. It was quite windy, but the warm sun balanced that out and I was quite comfortable, a little warm at times. I saw two people early on, the only souls I'd see all day.

North Point was windy as heck and I didn't stay too long, although the view was incredible. Probably my ten minutes there was more than the first time, when I just tramped by the crowds. Back down to the junction at the base of North Mt., I took the Mary's Glen Trail to the Rock Shelter Trail, back to the road right near Schutt Rd and my car. Nice loop.

The hike was uneventful for the most part. The only reason I even post is this-for those who have not hiked this trail yet, do yourself a favor and do so. Although it doesn't take you to a 35'er, or even a 3Ker, it is some of the finest the Catskills have to offer. Countless great vistas, and some of the most beautiful forest stands in the Catskills in a few places. Also, the polished pebbles in some of the rock add some geologic variety not seen everywhere in the Park. I have to bring my seldom-hiking friends up there next spring.

Matt

billandjudy
12-26-2006, 04:48 PM
Matt, you are right on w/ this TR. I did this plus Stoppel Point in August--It is a great hike. The Escarpment offers spectacular views. Best done on a clear day!
http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/552979065AayFNs
I wasn't too thrilled w/ The MG Trail though--lots o' rocks.:eek:

Dick
12-26-2006, 05:13 PM
Hi Bill and Matt (and any others),

We've done the hike to North Point more times than we can count, and have loved it. We've never been to Stoppel Pt. from either direction (North Point or Blackhead). Is one preferable over the other (from the standpoint of views/interest, etc.)?

Bill, loved your pics!

Dick

Mark Schaefer
12-26-2006, 08:00 PM
I intended to park at the Palenville lot on 23A and hike up to the Escarpment, but there was no room to park there (two earth-moving machines, and three other vehicles) ... Bummer on the 23A trailhead parking. A new house is under construction off of the Long Path. And construction supplies and vehicles seem to be frequently parked in the trailhead parking lot. The new house is on the old Forge/Cline Quarry Road (a.k.a. Dodd House Road), in the second of two small private inholdings shown on map #40. The unmarked Forge/Cline Quarry Road continues up past the new house to the Palenville Overlook and can be legally hiked.

There is alternate trailhead on Whites Road that adds perhaps 0.3 miles each way to the hike. It is marked by a small sign on the left as you near the top of a rise on Whites Road. The parking is a bit limited and disorganized, and can be muddy. But you made a good alternative choice in hikes. Nice report.

Hi Bill and Matt (and any others),

We've done the hike to North Point more times than we can count, and have loved it. We've never been to Stoppel Pt. from either direction (North Point or Blackhead). Is one preferable over the other (from the standpoint of views/interest, etc.)? Hiking in from North Lake State Park is the shortest and easiest way to reach Stoppel Point. It is probably the most preferable on a winter day hike. You have the North Point (and potentially other Escarpment Trail) viewpoints on the way. I believe most of the park roads are closed in winter. You might have to hike in from the gatehouse. The yellow blazed "Rock Shelter" trail can be a rooty, wet pain. Mary's Glen Trail is more attractive with a waterfall, even if you do have to hike along the park road to the trailhead.

There is an eastern view at the trail signs near the summit of Stoppel Point. Make sure you continue on the trail to the northern view of the Blackhead Range. Just a bit further along there is a plane crash right next to the trail, just before the descent off the summit to the north.

Both the Colgate Lake and Dutcher Notch trails are interesting and longer approaches from the north. The Dutcher Notch trail from the east provides the most elevation gain, but it is also the closest trailhead and most efficient at minimizing drive time from Hudson Valley locations. Both of these approaches pass Milt's Lookout, a nice view over the Hudson Valley. And you would want to visit both viewpoints on the Stoppel summit.

Deb
12-27-2006, 01:32 PM
Matt, how many miles was this loop? Starting at Schutt Rd. and hiking up to North Point by way of Layman's Monument and Sunset Rock it would seem at least 12 miles?
I remember doing part of this hike and stressing over all the elevation loss on the way to Layman's.

billandjudy
12-27-2006, 01:45 PM
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2569733910082736937QtVSvf
Out to Acra Point and back to Schutt Road--12.8 miles, 2400 vertical--

Deb
12-27-2006, 06:49 PM
Not nearly as bad as I thought; thanks!

MattC
12-28-2006, 09:41 PM
Matt, how many miles was this loop? Starting at Schutt Rd. and hiking up to North Point by way of Layman's Monument and Sunset Rock it would seem at least 12 miles?
I remember doing part of this hike and stressing over all the elevation loss on the way to Layman's.

Here's the numbers for the loop I did, as per the NYNJTC map:

-Escarpment Trail from southern terminus at Schutt Rd to North Point 7.4 miles. My side trip to the top of Kaaterskill Falls probabably threw in an extra couple tenths of a mile.

-From North Point back down to the junction w/ the Marys Glen Trail .2 miles

-MG Trail to junction w/ Rock Shelter Trail .8 miles

-Rock Shelter Trail back to Schutt Rd. 1.3 miles

Total - about 10 miles

The few hundred feet of elevation loss is well worth going down to the part of the Escarpment near the monument. The views down into the Clove and out across to High Peak and Roundtop are spectacular. I agree w/ Mark's assessment of the Rock Shelter Trail-definitely very wet and sloppy. I remember thinking it's kind of a drag to have to be walking over mud, water, rocks and roots this time of year. Must be what winter in the southern Appalachians is like. :rolleyes:

Matt