Internet Connection ?? - Please respond [Archive]

Mavs00

04-14-2006, 07:11 AM

Just a quick anonymous poll. I am considering some upgrades for the site. Most are pretty innocuous and wont effect anything. One or two are a little more memory intensive and might have an impact on site speed, depending on your connection. You wouldn't notice with High speed connection, but dial-up users might.

Before I'd do them, it will help to know the primary way you connect and surf. If most here are dial-up dinosaurs than I should hold off. Not that the results will be conclusive, but I should get an idea. Thanks.

No one can see how you vote, its anonymous. I appreciate your cooperation.

TFR

04-14-2006, 07:44 AM

lumberzac

04-14-2006, 07:49 AM

Until I can get high speed internet for $5 a month, I’m sticking with my dial-up service.

Mavs00

04-14-2006, 07:56 AM

I should say "site streamlines", not so much upgrades. Some are provider spurred, meaning that my site host is pushing for it. It's a high speed world and many ISP's and host are headed that way.

Likely won't have any effect, and I can choose not to impliment much of it, which is why I am asking. Be assured, I'll try not to do anything that will drastically effect user satisfaction :tup: .

dog

04-14-2006, 11:58 AM

I have DSL . It's not really high speed . Where should I click in the poll ?

Dynotrick , thx for info in # 6 .

Dynotrick

04-14-2006, 12:16 PM

I have DSL . It's not really high speed . Where should I click in the poll ?

DSL is highspeed. ISDN is a dinosaur, not sure why thats in there. Mavs probly ment DSL.

Mavs00

04-14-2006, 01:03 PM

DSL is highspeed. ISDN is a dinosaur, not sure why thats in there. Mavs probly ment DSL.

:oops: Yeah, I did mean DSL. Not sure what I was thinking. By the way, I use Road Runner and we were recently seduced by the low prices of DSL. Ughhhhhhhh, cancelled it in about 2 days. Compaired to cable modem, it felt like a throwback to the ole' 9400 baud days :rolleyes: , anyone remember them ????

Not sure why it's considered high speed, but it is, so I lumped it in.

Dick

04-14-2006, 02:03 PM

:oops: Yeah, I did mean DSL. Not sure what I was thinking. By the way, I use Road Runner and we were recently seduced by the low prices of DSL. Ughhhhhhhh, cancelled it in about 2 days. Compaired to cable modem, it felt like a throwback to the ole' 9400 baud days :rolleyes: , anyone remember them ????

Hey, I remember 2400 baud. Those were the days when we proudly upgraded our new Apple IIGS computer to one megabyte!

Dick

randomscooter

04-14-2006, 02:13 PM

Until I can get high speed internet for $5 a month, I’m sticking with my dial-up service.
I feel your pain. I'll switch when Congress passes the Rural Fiber Optification Act. Optification? Right now it'd be $1700 to run cable to my house :eek: . I guess I shouldn't complain though. Who needs cable when you've got the High Peaks in your backyard? :D

Nessmuk

04-14-2006, 02:41 PM

Hey, I remember 2400 baud. Those were the days when we proudly upgraded our new Apple IIGS computer to one megabyte!

DickAnd limited use of a 1200 baud research link was such a dream when compared to the 300b system I was on... :eek:

By the way, for those way out in the boonies but still on the electrical power grid, there is progress being made on BPL (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/high_power_internet.html) , (and other references) broadband over power lines.

Mark Schaefer

04-14-2006, 03:13 PM

Hey, I remember 2400 baud. Hey, it is a day for nostalgia. When I was in high school in the 1960s we had a 10 character per second teletype at home, and we used to connect to the old University of Michigan Time Share system. ka-chug, ka-chug, ka-chug. Then we got a 30 cps teletype and we thought we were in the fast lane. Now I am cable modem at home and 100Mb ethernet at work.

I am looking forward to Tim's "site streamlines". Is the site going to look like Birdhead Studios? :cool: :twisted: :cool: :smile:

Dick

04-14-2006, 03:25 PM

Hey, it is a day for nostalgia. When I was in high school in the 1960s we had a 10 character per second teletype at home, and we used to connect to the old University of Michigan Time Share system. ka-chug, ka-chug, ka-chug. Then we got a 30 cps teletype and we thought we were in the fast lane. Now I am cable modem at home and 100Mb ethernet at work.

I am looking forward to Tim's "site streamlines". Is the site going to look like Birdhead Studios? :cool: :twisted: :cool: :smile:We're of the same vintage, approximately, but I wasn't as fortunate :smile: All I had for communication was a Smith Corona typewriter, or (today heaven forbid) pen and paper.

Dick

randomscooter

04-14-2006, 03:25 PM

By the way, for those way out in the boonies but still on the electrical power grid, there is progress being made on BPL (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/high_power_internet.html) , (and other references) broadband over power lines.
That is SOOOOOO awesome. I've gotta check if NYSEG is going to provide this service.

Frosty

04-14-2006, 03:44 PM

the ole' 9400 baud days :rolleyes: , anyone remember them ????I had a Sinclair (later Timex) with a 150 baud modem. Back then just BBS, but you could watch the letters appear on the screen one ... by one .... by one ....

pete_hickey

04-14-2006, 08:47 PM

... Back then just BBS......Guess I was lucky. i had the Internet (ARPAnet at that time).. actually earlier. Yeah, we had Internet before the BBSs existed. The BBSs didn't exist until the (generic) PC was available. Internet was larger PDP-11s, VAXen, Perkin-Elmer....

Back then, I remember paying $1500 for a 1200 baud modem... That was the UNIVERSITY's connection.

Now.. lets see... I have a gig connection to some places, but doing traceroute, it looks like I'm stuck with a measly 250M to this site.....

Uhhhh Tim... You're calling cable high speed?????

Ever transfer a terabyte over cable?

Boreal Chickadee

04-14-2006, 09:01 PM

I'm sitting here reading all this talk about alphabet soup and shaking my head. I think I just stepped out of the dark ages since I've I've only had a computer at home for two years and a computer at work for only three. So let's see, I entered the world of technology in 2003. But hey, I broke down and got cable TV in 2004.

I AM the dinosaur. But I'm a dinosaur with broadband!

hawk

04-15-2006, 12:26 AM

I started with a 75 baud modem and there was no compression or error checking. You had to convert .bin files to asci to send em, and then convert them back the other way.

I have DSL. There are different speeds for DSL too. Mine tests out at 1.5, download, and 512mb upload.

It's funny, someone was talking about cable being faster then DSL, I had just the opposite result.

MattC

04-15-2006, 04:34 AM

Another cable connection here. We used to split the costs between housemates, but now it's actually included in our rent as if it was just another "utility."

Matt

Mavs00

04-15-2006, 07:45 AM

It's funny, someone was talking about cable being faster then DSL, I had just the opposite result.

Might be the location, or the outfit. Ours was the local Telephone utility trying to take break into the market here. It didn't work. Service was little better than dial up. I hated it. I love my RR.

Pete, no don't workin gin terabytes, but I download fast enough. With a solid link-up, I hit speeds of 100-120 kb/sec.

pete_hickey

04-15-2006, 09:25 AM

......DSL.....Might be the location, or the outfit.

Location can make a big difference. It depends on distance from the CO (phone company's Central Office), and the quality of the wires. Older neighborhoods TEND to have old wires, and DSL often runs slower in these areas.

Cable tends to be constant, due to powered distribution and signal re-amplification along the way..

HOWEVER... your ISP can throttle your speed, maybe based on destination, or maybe based on what you are doing.. No, I should not have said they 'can', I should have said they 'may' Courts will decide one of these years.

Does and ISP have the right to slow down music sharing protocols? Do they have a right to give faster service to, say google than yahoo, because they are in bet with one?

.....no don't working in terabytes...We'll need the bandwidth once teleporting moves out of the starships, and into the homes.

Hitched Hiker

04-15-2006, 09:03 PM

We'll need the bandwidth once teleporting moves out of the starships, and into the homes.

That's one way to stick it to the oil companys! I"m in! That will save me mucho bucks being a Jeep owner! How do I get one of these, Pete?

Nessmuk

04-16-2006, 09:12 AM

We'll need the bandwidth once teleporting moves out of the starships, and into the homes.I couldn't help but think of the story plotline (read it here) in The Fly (http://www.joblo.com/flythe.htm). Come to think of it, a certain unnamed avatar bears a striking resemblance :D

Anyway, the original 1958 Vincent Price version was better. It creeped me out as a kid when I saw it. Hellllp meeeeee.

pete_hickey

04-19-2006, 11:56 AM

.We'll need the bandwidth once teleporting moves out of the starships, and into the homes.

Just in case anyone thinks I'm kidding, one of the internet bodies has proposed a standard encoding necessary for this:

ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/pdfrfc/rfc1437.txt.pdf

And you'all probably thought I was kidding...

Prino

04-19-2006, 05:43 PM

I couldn't help but think of the story plotline (read it here) in The Fly (http://www.joblo.com/flythe.htm). Hellllp meeeeee.

That was so funny. When I saw it for the first time back in the 70's. The day after at work myself and coworkers had a good laugh crying out loud like the dying fly. :eek:

I have DSL by the way!

Dynotrick

04-19-2006, 09:34 PM

Try http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ to test your connection.

I get this with Bittorrent running over 100 connections and sucking down video and music.
Last Result:
Download Speed: 2328 kbps (291 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 65 kbps (8.1 KB/sec transfer rate)

and this on an my connection with nothing else (almost) going on:
Last Result:
Download Speed: 6428 kbps (803.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 359 kbps (44.9 KB/sec transfer rate)

This is RR in Rochester NY