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mudhook
06-13-2010, 08:01 PM
Plans were to ambush the little pirate and dad on SW this afternoon, but they were no where to be found so I decided on Rusk to break in the new dog I seem to have inherited. Rusk was fine; nettles briars blowdown rain fog a few bugs, one of those surreal catskill days. Across to East Rusk thru the fern glades and hobblebush, again nice, the fog and mist highlighting the spruce. We watched a mother woods chicken pretend injury to lead us away from her brood who were peeping away,I explained to dog we don't harass the wild life and she understood. At the horsy col I informed dog that since we were almost to Hunter we had to go on, a rule of mine that once above a certain height(usally about 3000 +or- a few hundred feet) you must summit the next peak. No problem, but she as terrified of the large group of Koreans we passed. Misty, a drizzle and onward a beautiful lonesome day to be out,just hiking for the sheer joy of hiking. A short ways in on the old railbed this joy was gone; Someone had taken it upon themselves to cut out the rail bed, both dead and live trees.
Being the " can man", I take the trailess peaks quite seriously. I don't mind the cutting out of views on the regular trails or cleaning up or switch backing trails or stuff like that, I even accepted that horrible bridge in the Neversink, but cutting and cairn building and flagging on the trailess 35 is something like treaspassing on the CHH, its going to ruin it for every one. What makes the 35 trailess unique from the 46 trailess is that many of the trailess cats are really trailess, unlike the 46. A beginner really needs to know map and compass, although the cats are much more forgiving if you do get lost. Today it took me just 18 minutes to get to the can on SW along this cleared path; my first trip not many years back took a few hours of crawling, searching, and compass work, an experience I will never forget.
The canisters are still in the cats , unlike in the ADK's, by some act of god or something, they are maintained, tallied, a report submitted to the state and even painted gray in region 3 to keep them less visible. I enjoy reading the logs, and seeing how proud most people are to have found their first "can" or to have found them all and become 35ers. I believe the cans are a goal and ideal for people, a learning experience, something to protect and respect. It would be a shame to lose them. The magic of the cats would be diminished.
I hope who ever did this didn't realize what they were doing, the trees will grow back, blowdowns will occur, and hopefully the trail will be less visible.
The log book was wet and tattered, many more people are walking out to see where this trail goes, which compounds with every boot step, and many really don't care this peak is a pristine and wild place.
Any way, I don't belive in arrest or punishment or beating the hell out of someone for this, whats done is done, and hopefully it won't happen again and we all learn something about these special spots.
Sorry to rant.

billandjudy
06-13-2010, 08:11 PM
Rant away Jim...I've seen the change in the 4 years I've been hiking..Our first trip was an adventure in thrashing about...A short year later there was a path..Now there's an alley:rolleyes:

rockysummit
06-13-2010, 08:41 PM
Nice report Jim although a little sad. I was up there recently and was thinking of how much easier that route has become, and that was before your recent finding. On a happier note, sounds like you've inherited a very nice companion!
-Tony

Doodles
06-13-2010, 08:42 PM
Any way, I don't belive in arrest or punishment or beating the hell out of someone for this, whats done is done, and hopefully it won't happen again and we all learn something about these special spots.
Sorry to rant.

Arrest and punishment probably not, but a good beating goes a long way.

It certainly seens like the last few years have brought about more illegal trail and view cutting and flagging of routes in the Cats. I agree with mudhook that this will ruin the magic of the trailless peaks. I hope that the word gets out to those that may not realize what they are doing is wrong.

Jay H
06-14-2010, 08:19 AM
Looks like it is time to move the canisters, Mudhook.. WINK...

Jay

Maria
06-14-2010, 08:43 AM
Sounds like you've got the dog from hell in much better control than last we met him. Did you have him leashed the whole time? If not, really impressive!

And really sorry to hear about the clippings....whoever did it needs to see the trail maintainers list and sign up for something proper if they are so eager to cut away....:cry:

mudhook
06-15-2010, 05:24 PM
[QUOTE=Maria;128727]Sounds like you've got the dog from hell in much better control than last we met him. Did you have him leashed the whole time? If not, really impressive!

We started out with Rusk, and by the time we reached the trail she was tried out so I didn't need to leash her, and she only knocked 9 or 10 people down.:D Plus in the parking lot, another group had a dog of the same age and temperment, and the same name, so the two of them ran amuck thru the mud, jumping thru open car doors, knocking over packs, and just having a grand time while every one yelled no Molly.:eek:

Zer0-G
06-15-2010, 06:29 PM
Arrest and punishment probably not, but a good beating goes a long way.

It certainly seens like the last few years have brought about more illegal trail and view cutting and flagging of routes in the Cats. I agree with mudhook that this will ruin the magic of the trailless peaks. I hope that the word gets out to those that may not realize what they are doing is wrong.

Hey, I hope that whomever did this cutting at the old rail bed will eventually realize that they are spoiling memories that will never be able to be handed down. For a long time now I have hoped to be able to share my memories of my first experiences in the Catskills with my boys. SWH is now off that list as now the first time Arlo and Jaco (Gina too!!) will see it it will be absolutely nothing like my first time.

If you are reading this and your urge to cut trees and things like that is so strong, let me know, you can come and do work in my yard. I'll provide the lemonade.

Zer0-G
06-15-2010, 06:32 PM
Molly.:eek:

Yo Molly!!!!

Can't wait to meet ya! :D

Cory D
06-15-2010, 07:34 PM
When I started reading I thought maybe you finally decided to take that blind Pug for a hike!:)

It seems you might have just one rogue taking it upon themselves and they really think they are helping out and doing the "right" thing helping people. Hard to imagine that it is someone that reads the forums, how could you miss the concept if so...

So, the best way to reach this person might be to make a note (such as you wrote) and start leaving them in the canisters for awhile. They might not be signing them but they are probably reading them. They might just catch onto the fact that they aren't "helping" like they think they are.

hoosier
06-15-2010, 07:49 PM
Wonder if they can head over to Halcott and clear some nettles but leave the trees alone

Actually thats is a darn shame. Sort of takes all the fun out of the bushwhack .


Here Molly !!!!!!

Bill

sparty
06-15-2010, 11:17 PM
Great Trip! I think we might have seen the same 'mother woods chicken', on the way down E. Rusk? In fact I think we saw two that day, one on the way up Rusk also.

SWH had a bit of blow down a week or so ago when we did it so the work must be recent. Since I first encountered that peak, 3 or so years ago it has always been easy and obvious. - Doug

niceguyted
06-21-2010, 11:55 AM
I can't wait to meet Molly either. It's been a while since I've had a nice romp in the mud with a pretty girl (dog). ;)

Mudhook, I'm right there with you: I'm a pretty new 35R and can clearly remember finding each of those canisters for the first time. What a sense of accomplishment! I solo hiked most of the bushwhacks, so it was a scary and exciting time to learn how to use a map and compass. But believe you me, I KNOW how to use my map and compass now. And I'm a lot more comfortable in the woods wherever I am - trail or no trail. I learned that by doing the best I could not to get lost in the woods while joining the Catskill 3500 Club, not by taking a class and memorizing 'azimuth'.

I was up at SW Hunter a few weeks ago and was surprised at how clear that trail was - I'd almost have a hard time even calling it a herd path. There were a couple of spots where I was able to see a clear tunnel through the woods for at least 50 yards. It's too bad. On the one hand, I was glad to make the turn off the trail and motor right up to the canister, but on the other hand, the sense of accomplishment wasn't really there.

Would somebody please PM me an explanation of where the old railbed is so that I don't look like an idiot - I'd hate for mudhook to think I don't know what I'm talking about. ;)

mudhook
06-21-2010, 04:05 PM
The rail trail is the route off the Devils path, that long tunnel you spoke of.
Its a horse drawn rail bed from the old time logging days, others can fill you in better.
Molly would love to meet and knock you down too, just her way of saying hello.:D

Halia and Flammeus
06-21-2010, 05:32 PM
Sounds like Molly, Iske and Lily need to hike together... definitely a bushwack, tho. Somewhere far from civilization, so that the woof pack doesn't freak anyone out...

I called Is and Lil off a porcupine and a dozen or so baby turkeys this week. After muskrat incident, I've stepped up my "NO! Leave it!!!" commands.