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pete_hickey
02-27-2006, 09:26 AM
So, I've done a number of hikes with Julie. It seems that every timeI hike in the Adirondacks with Julie... No! Every time I hike with Julie, it is cloudy, foggy, misty... anything so that there are no views. Let's see... Giant... Rocky Peak..., Phelps..., McIntyre range... That beautiful view on Sawteeth? No, Not with Julie.

So, being a scientist, I wanted to figure out if it was a problem with the person, or the name. So, Saturday, I found another Julie to join us for a climb of Cliff & Redfield. OK, so Cliff isn't noted for great views, but there are some interesting ones.. especially since Floyd. Redfield that that beautiful view of Allen. Yep, that was the plan, to go with two Julies to test out the views.

Now, I am a rather dedicated scientist, as hiking up Cliff and Redfield from Upper Works, works your body rather hard, and at the end, mine felt as if it had been worked over with a rubber hose.

So we walk in to the Flowed Lands, and as we are getting there, it is snowing more and more. A shortcut across the Flowedlands. I wasn't sure about the safety of the ice, so I made sure that Julie went first, Julie went second, and I went last. We made it across OK, and before we knew it, we were walking along the Opalescent, and were soon at the start of the herd path. By this time it was snowing fairly well. Up Cliff we went. Now, here's where the weirdness starts. I had taken off my glasses because they had fogged up, yet I was leading the way. I'm blinder than a starfish without my glasses. We got to the summit, where there were no views, and didn't stay because it was cold, windy, snowy, and no views.

Back down we went, and stopped for a little rest at the lean-to. Julie and I were getting cold, so we started off on Redfield, while Julie stayed behind a bit.

In spite of the fact that Redfield had been hiked just a couple days earlier, there wasn't a hint of a path. It was route finding and deep powder breaking all the way. If I were a gentleman, I would have been right there, breaking trail, but I'm an unsociable Bxxxxxd, so I let Julie break trail.

Cold on the summit, no views, just enough time for a picture, then to head down. Julie was cold, so she started moving fast. Julie & I were a littlebehind for a bit.

A long trip back, in the dark. I don't work too well without glasses, and tired in the dark, so I was slow.

So, the result of this experiment is:

Julie+Julie = no views.

And I already had

Julie = no views.

So the next morning was a sunny morning, and I was planning on a ski into the Great Santanoni Camp, on Lake Newcomb. I took another Julie with me (not the original). It was a beautiful sunny morning, and I expected to have nice views across Newcomb Lake.

What happened? A bit of clouding over, and lots of blowing snow meant no views.

So, now I am convinced. Whether I hike with Julie, or I hike with Julie, or I hike with Julie & Julie, I never have any views. Of course there is more research to be done in this area. For example, I have to find someone to hike with that ALWAYS gets good views, and then bring this person on a Julie hike, but that will take another government grant. Maybe Next year.

Oh yeah. A few pictures:

http://newmud.comm.uottawa.ca/~pete/tmpadk/cr/index.html.

Neil
02-27-2006, 09:35 AM
I can take your research a step further. I have hiked once with Julie with a hard J: no views. I'll be hiking with soft J Julie in a few weeks. In order to keep the conditions as controlled as possible you and Dominic have to be there for the upcoming hike with Julie and only one Julie can come.

Rumour has it it was cold in them there hills last weekend. Let me tell you about cold. It was in Manitoba and the mercury read....

Have you ever urinated at neg 40? The urine hits the snow and turns into a bunch of frozen urine ball bearings that roll around all over the place on the surface.

Gail
02-27-2006, 10:26 AM
I have hiked with each of the Julies once and had great views both times!

Skyclimber
02-27-2006, 11:30 AM
I have hiked with each of the Julies once and had great views both times!

Gee Pete, Maybe your the jinx? :)

Rik
02-27-2006, 11:31 AM
Well done and nice report. It was a pleasure meeting the three of you this weekend.

timmus
02-27-2006, 12:09 PM
I'll be hiking with soft J Julie in a few weeks.

If there will be some trail breaking to do, ask Pete now about his '' I-can't-see-the trail-because-I-don't-have-my-glasses'' trick so naïve Julie takes the lead and break the trail all the way up.

Views or not, I had a great time hiking with Pete and Julie, and thanks Tom for organizing the whole thing. Great Santanoni Camp was a very interesting place to discover.

pete_hickey
02-27-2006, 01:01 PM
Gee Pete, Maybe your the jinx? :)Not a chance. The sun always shines on me when Julie isn't there.
I have hiked with each of the Julies once and had great views both times!You know... two years ago, on Dix I was hiking with Julie. (Not Julie who was on Dix with me last year, and not Julie who was never on Dix with me.) It was not a sunny day, but there were some views. See:

http://newmud.comm.uottawa.ca/~pete/meo1.jpg

Julie was definately there. I have to think this one out.

If there will be some trail breaking to do, ask Pete now about his '' I-can't-see-the trail-because-I-don't-have-my-glasses'' trick so naïve Julie takes the lead and break the trail all the way up.Well, I guess I can't use that one anymore. That's OK. I've got a lot more.

Prino
03-02-2006, 03:51 PM
I was thinking of you guys while I was up here....

Mt. Logan (http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=548171812)

Glad the hike went well!

timmus
03-03-2006, 09:42 AM
Very nice, Phil. It makes me feel like I should visit my own backyard sometimes...

Neil
03-03-2006, 11:54 AM
Phil! Amazing! Beautiful pictures. :drop:

yvon
03-03-2006, 12:13 PM
WOW !!! what a nice place, and beautiful pictures Phil, one day i will go there for sure. It look you have a nice trip.

pete_hickey
03-03-2006, 04:03 PM
....I was up here....

Mt. Logan (http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=viewAllPhotos&albumID=548171812)


Know how there are ads while you look at the pictures? Well, as I was looking at ont of the pictures of an outhouse, the add flashed on which read,

"Take a seat of power"

I never realized that there was a synch between the content and the ads.

cantdog
03-03-2006, 05:03 PM
Mind if I ask what "chic-choc" is?

funkyfreddy
03-03-2006, 06:21 PM
The Chic Choc's are an interesting mountain range that runs through the Gaspe Pennisula in eastern Quebec. I've been up there 2x and have climbed only a few mountains. Mt. Albert and Mt. Cartier come to mind, I will have to look at my maps again.......

One thing I've always wanted to do is hike the International Appalachian trail through Quebec to Parc Forillion, which is really incredible for its views of the ocean and diverse wildlife.

yvon
03-03-2006, 07:33 PM
Julie (Cantdog), if you want to know more about the Chic-Chocs.

CHIC CHOCS (http://www.sepaq.com/En/index.cfm?Reseau=CC&Module=&Etablissement=&Page=BIEN&Activite=#0)

pete_hickey
03-03-2006, 07:43 PM
The Chic Choc's are an interesting mountain range And the caribou you'll find there.. Oh... Jean-René is supposed to bring me some caribou from Québec, tonight.

One thing I've always wanted to do is hike the International Appalachian trail through Quebec to Parc Forillion, which is really incredible for its views of the ocean and diverse wildlife.The section from the New Brunswick border to Forillion is truely wild. There is only one road crossing in something like 150 miles...

Boreal Chickadee
03-03-2006, 09:30 PM
Gosh darn those Chic Chocs are beautiful! And what a place to be pampered at that lodge. I've got a sister who's always looking for new places for us to go. How many hours driving from the Northway border crossing? Or the Thoudand Islands bridge?

Would you have to have a basic knowledge of French to make life easier if going there? Highway signs, trail signs etc.

And a dorky question: In the information there was a notation of room size as pi squared. The squaring being a raised 2. Pi??? as in 3.14.......??? You know, circumference of a circle divided by its diameter. I've got to be missing something here!

pete_hickey
03-03-2006, 09:36 PM
How many hours driving from the Northway border crossing? Far. 12-16 hours I'd say.
Or the Thoudand Islands bridge?14-19 hours. I'm talking car hours, not bike hours either.

Would you have to have a basic knowledge of French to make life easier if going there? Highway signs, trail signs etc.

And a dorky question: In the information there was a notation of room size as pi squared. The squaring being a raised 2. Pi??? as in 3.14.......??? You know, circumference of a circle divided by its diameter. I've got to be missing something here! Yeah, you're a mathmetician, not a french major. Pied Carré... Square feet.

Boreal Chickadee
03-03-2006, 09:44 PM
That's far, very far. :(

The extent of my French is bonjour. I took Russian in high school and barely remember any of that! I've been trying to pick up Spanish because of traveling to the southwest and once to Mexico.

Pied carre...sounds like a good bonus question on the next test! :lol:

pete_hickey
03-03-2006, 11:10 PM
There was talk of Caribou in another thread... I remember Julie wanted to know what it ws, while Julie said that it made her sick one time... Here's a picture

http://newmud.comm.uottawa.ca/~pete/tmp/caribou.jpg

Mabe I'll bring some of that for Julie for trailwork on Dix....

timmus
03-04-2006, 09:34 AM
Beer, special salsa, and now Caribou ?

You would get much more youngers to do trailwork if you would advertising it this way.

Prino
03-04-2006, 12:17 PM
Know how there are ads while you look at the pictures? Well, as I was looking at ont of the pictures of an outhouse, the add flashed on which read,

"Take a seat of power"

I never realized that there was a synch between the content and the ads.

Ha Ha!! That's funny! I got an ad pop up for Cottenelle just after.....
All this reminds me of a little quote I just heard....
Life is like a toilet roll... The closer you get to the end, the faster it goes! :(

The drive up took us 11 hours (from 45 minutes west of Montreal) including a stop in Rimouski to order a new exhaust for my 13 year old Camry.
The drive back took us 12 hours including an hour and a half stop in Rimouski to have the exhaust fitted.
The drive along the St Lawrence estuary beyond Quebec City is beautiful but more challenging/dangerous than the ski in the Chic-Chocs due to road conditions and competing with Large Trucks.

Sorry for Hijacking this post! Getting back on track to the Julies... I have hiked with "hard" J Julie four times and saw the sun at least twice. I have drank with "soft" J Julie twice and didn't see the sun either time. :lol: