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Eric
02-22-2006, 08:57 PM
Snow fairly deep (several inches) by the time at Indian falls. Snow very deep at times at base of Marcy. Crusty snow. On other side very very slippery. MSR's worked well, crampons would be better to use. Rik took a good fall, thank goodness not hurt. We bushwhacked to Gray. Snow very deep but managable. Many spruce traps. Lake Aronold frozed solid. Snow plentiful all around. Skylight trail had a lot of snow, Snowshoes all the way. Again plenty of snow all the way to Lake Arnold and then some. Snow Shoes necessary for trip, crampons would be helpful for MArcy, not needed on Skylight. Maybe you would like them better for yourself on that summit, I used MSR's and no difficulties. It was winter today. Some snow flurries, some sun. Very skiiable today as well once you are passed Marcy damn area. Marcy, Gray, Skylight now open for business.
RIK'S BIRTHDAY TODAY :drink:
Rik and I set out on the trail from the ADK loj at about 7:40. We bare booted to just past the Phelps trail head. Here snow became somewhat deeper. When we reached Indian falls we walked over to take a peek, views were pretty good, fairly cloudy day with breaks of sun. As we continued on to Marcy the snow became very deep at times due to snow drift. Some spots the snow was a dusting to a foot to thigh high, well for someone 5'10, waist for Rik, just kidding. As we followed up the side of Marcy we walked along some crust which helped, not very slippery with MSR's. Didn't stay to long on summit, it was not very windy, just couldn't see much. Our plan was to walk from Marcy over to Gray. We were able to due this but it did take some time. I kept thinking to myself, the summit was right there from Marcy why is this taking so long. Well the many spruce traps didn't help. In some areas you could see faintly an old trail. The sighn for Gray was below my knee, a yellow disk was up much higher. I guess the yellow disk would help if you were digging for the canister that is no longer there. This route was interesting compared to taking the summer herd path. We followed off and on a faint trail through the snow down to Lake tear in the Clouds. At the Lake we dropped our paks and headed to Skylight. Here again the snow is plenty and will remind you that it is winter. As we headed up Skylight Rik and I bumped into a couple young guys camping this weekend. They had just finished Marcy and Skylight. We let them know that Gray was now open for business. They stated that they would definately go now since when they had come up from that direction this am they did not know where the trail head was and the trail was not broken out. One kid stated that he was robbed by a pine martin and wanted Rik and I to let the P-Martin know that this kid was upset about the stolen soup and other items. Up on top of Skylight the wind was low, no problem. Visability was fairly good. Redfield, Mac's, Marcy all in good view. Today was Riks birthday so we celebrated on top with cup cakes. A great place to spend your birthday. When down Skylight Rik and I walked across Lake Tear in the Clouds. When I got to my bag all was well, I wish I could say the same for Rik. Appearently Rik was too robbed by a Pine Martin. His cheese was all gone (The Power Of Cheese). Bag and All. After some time watching Rik look for this Martin I had another snack and a drink. About 10 minutes into Rik moaning the Pine MArtin decided to make an appearence. The Martin was not very shy and came up to us, well about 5 feet from us, enought to take about 12 photos. Rik was even able to have a photo op with the Martin that Rik named Mr.Martin. After spending some time with Mr. Martin, Rik giving an inquest we headed down to Lake Arnold. We made good time in fairly deep snow. When at the MArcy damn Rik and I talked for about half hour with Ron, local Rescue worker and other things, talked about some rescues in the adk's he participated in over a good number of years. He was a very nice guy as was his friend. What was his name??? sorry. Back at the car, dry clothing.
#43-winter today.

TFR
02-22-2006, 09:37 PM
Great job guys! See you Friday! And Happy Birthday to Rik!

Rik
02-23-2006, 07:25 AM
Ahhh! Three birthdays in a row of climbing in the high peaks. It won't be long now before that elusive Birthday 46 will be mine! Do they make a patch for that?
Great day out. I think crampons would have been a better choice leaving the summit of Marcy but once again MSRs were impressive. Thanks to Eric for the cupcake on Skylight. I still don't understand why the candle wasn't lit?
The funniest part of the day had to be the new feature I discovered on my digital camera. It seems to have a setting (which I accidently set) for creating a decorative border on the picture. At first this was terribly annoying as I was trying to take a picture of Marcy and it looked like there were balloons blowing off the top. Then I discovered how to make it come and go which became much more fun. The irony was that the border that kept appearing was a happy birthday border complete with balloons. Should make for some funny shots.
And finally thanks to Ron and his buddy for thinking I must be in my early twenties.

slamdog
02-23-2006, 07:36 AM
No better way to spend a birthday! Nice trip report, sounded like a fun trip. Nice to know there's a little snow in the mountains. Climbing on ice all winter has, well, sucked. As TFR said, we'll see you this weekend. Slamdog

pete_hickey
02-23-2006, 07:45 AM
A couple things. Seems to me that you did fairly well with the spruce traps. I say this, because you don't speak much of them, compared reports from other years. Head-deep traps are not at all uncommon in a typical year on that route.

Just another note. The disks were not there when the canisters were there. In the later years, with an increase in winter climbing, we started to find a lot of damage to trees as people were digging around, looking for the canisters. Winter climbers were told that if they were on the summit, and couldn't find the canister, they shouldn't dig. Their word would be taken that they were there.

Affix Snow
02-23-2006, 08:35 AM
Great report and Happy B-Day!

How was snow coverage from the LOJ to marcy damn? Skiable?

Rik
02-23-2006, 09:02 AM
Great report and Happy B-Day!

How was snow coverage from the LOJ to marcy damn? Skiable?

Lousy. Some had tried to ski it but many wore boots or stabilicers, a few in snowshoes. Icy in spots with rocks and steps showing through the snow. Ron told us that they had even walked the first mile of the truck road from South Meadow before putting skis on.
And Pete, the spruce traps weren't bad. Just a few of them and only up to my armpits.
And Eric, I think Martin spells his/her name Marten. (by the way, thanks for carrying all of my gear, what a great birthday gift!)

Eric
02-23-2006, 09:05 AM
The Spruce traps were plenty, what would happen is while walking over through thick snow one leg would fall right through, fortunately not whole body. This was a concern after reading some time ago someones trip report on Gray how they had fallen right through. A couple times I did get stuck and had to really climb out. This was somewhat draining.
The yellow disk is something I do not remember being there 3 years ago in the summer. I thought maybe the disk was put there just so in the winter people would know they were at the summit instead of digging to find the sign. The disk is fairly high up.

I do not beleive that it is possible to ski from loj to damn. Snow is very packed and not very deep, rocks, etc..
From the damn the skiing looks to be good. There were several people out including the DEC out on skis. A couple skiied to Marcy and some skiied towards Avalanch pass. Again snow passed 3000 was pretty deep in areas.

pete_hickey
02-23-2006, 09:15 AM
The yellow disk is something I do not remember being there 3 years ago in the summer. I thought maybe the disk was put there just so in the winter people would know they were at the summit instead of digging to find the sign. The disk is fairly high up.

No such fancy reasons for those high up disks. No, it may not have been there 3 years ago.

When the canisters were removed, signs were being stollen, as fast as we could put them up. 'someone' decided to use tail markers, reversed, with the peaks name written on it, since they wouldn't ba as attraciive to steal.. at least for Joe street, Bill Nye, Marshall Mcloon, etc. They were put very high, so that they could not be easily taken down by someone who just wanted to destroy the signs.

The destruction of the signs seems to have stopped.

Affix Snow
02-23-2006, 09:34 AM
Pretty much what i figured aout skiing.

Please bless us with some snow soon Ullr!

1ADAM12
02-23-2006, 11:59 AM
Nice TR guys....you gotta love them Martins. I encountered one a few years ago on Mount Marshall and he was not shy at all.

TFR
02-23-2006, 12:28 PM
Nice TR guys....you gotta love them Martins. I encountered one a few years ago on Mount Marshall and he was not shy at all.

There is one up on Armstrong as well.

Rik
02-23-2006, 01:19 PM
There is one up on Armstrong as well.

I have seen them on Algonquin (at the campsite near the waterfall), on Nippletop, Allen, and now at Lake Tear. It is amazing how crafty they are. We were only gone for about 40 minutes. My pack was hung about six feet up in a tree and closed up. The marten was able to get under the buckled down lid and through the draw string closed sack to remove my food bag without opening the pack or chewing it's way through (which I was very thankful for). I suspect the other couple had stuffed the food bag back into the pack from the way I found it. The marten had obviously gone up the hill to eat some cheese before returning to see what else it could get.